As the pandemic spread across the world, unprecedented lockdowns followed. Now, as many of those countries are in the early weeks of lifting restrictions, we see signs of what may be the start of the second wave of the COVID-19 pandemic. And we cannot rule out a second wave of lockdowns.
The spread of the viral pandemic resulted in one country after another beginning the process of shutting down its society. It began in Asia, spread to Europe, then to North America and across much of the rest of the world. By early April, half of humanity was living under lockdown.
The lockdowns were incredibly controversial. This time period will be seared into the collective human memory for as long as we all live. Its significance to our societies, our economies, our political systems and our own individual experiences cannot be overstated.
People have grown tired of the lockdowns, and understandably so. But business leaders and politicians feel worried about the economy most of all, and want to reopen in order to revive the economy.
Countries in Asia began the process of lifting the lockdowns last month. With the earliest cases of the pandemic and some of the more effective means of handling it, everyone was keeping a close eye on these countries as they emerged from restrictions.
South Korea marked the ending of the most strict social distancing measures last week. Within days, numbers of the infected began to spike. The spike in South Korea’s numbers resulted entirely from one man’s night out going to clubs. South Korean President Moon Jae-in warned Koreans to “brace for the pandemic’s second wave.”
The Chinese province of Wuhan, where the COVID19 outbreak first began and where the lockdown ended the previous month, experienced its first cluster of new infections.
Iran – one of the early epicentres of the epidemic – had lifted its lockdown. But on May 10, Iran put a region of the country under a second lockdown after a sharp increase of cases in the province.
Lebanon, after emerging from the virus and the restrictions nearly two weeks ago, has put the entire country again under a lockdown as infections started to spike. Just ten days after reopening, Lebanon announced a four-day lockdown of the country, prompting grocery stores to once again be quickly emptied of essential items. This is all taking place in the midst of the country experiencing a brutal economic and financial crisis, one which began prior to the pandemic, and resulted in massive protests and social unrest that began late last year and continued even in the midst of the pandemic, as hunger and desperation spread. (Meanwhile, many Americans were protesting because they want haircuts, to go golfing, and for their favourite restaurants to be opened again.)
Europe followed Asia’s example in the lifting of restrictions and ending of lockdowns. This is a slow process that looks different in different countries. Ultimately, however, it follows the same course of slowly removing restrictions and opening public spaces, schools, businesses and borders, and incrementally easing social distancing measures.
At the start of April, virtually all of Europe except for Sweden was under lockdown. By the second week of May, most of the continent had started easing restrictions. The United Kingdom was the only large European country to not be easing (as it was one of the last to impose a lockdown).
Last week, the World Health Organization (WHO) warned about proceeding “extremely carefully” in seeking to emerge from the lockdowns in order to avoid another spike in infections.
“The risk of returning to lockdown remains very real if countries do not manage the transition extremely carefully and in a planned approach.” – WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus
“If lockdown measures are lifted too quickly, the virus can take off.” – Maria Ban Kerkhove, WHO epidemiologist
Within days of Germany starting the process of easing restrictions, cases began to spike. Not only the largest country in Europe (by population, economic weight and political power), Germany is also one of the more successful models of countries in dealing with the pandemic. Despite its size, deaths from the virus in Germany were fractions of those witnessed in Italy, Spain, the United Kingdom and France. Thus, with German infection rates starting to increase, fears grow of a second wave.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel warned, “We always have to be aware that we are still at the beginning of the pandemic… And there’s still a long way in dealing with this virus in front of us.”
The United States, with the most known cases of COVID19 in the world, has witnessed many individual states begin to reopen their societies in the past weeks. As businesses opened and people started to go to public places, infection rates began to spike in multiple U.S. states. The actual effects of reopening will take weeks to know, however. Though various official models suggest that we can expect a spike in cases and deaths over the coming weeks as a result.
Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, one of the leading experts in the fight against COVID19 in the United States, warned on May 12 that if U.S. states reopened too quickly and ignored guidelines from public health authorities, “you will trigger an outbreak that you might not be able to control,” which would lead “to some suffering and death that could be avoided.” But, he added, “that could even set you back on the road to try to get economic recovery.” Doing so, he added, “could almost turn the clock back rather than going forward.”
A research paper from a Harvard economist examined the past Spanish flu pandemic of 1918, looking at the various successes and failures of lockdowns and openings. He concluded that an assortment of restrictions and lockdowns failed to save as many lives in the past because the duration of the lockdowns was for too short a period: four weeks (one month), on average. The lesson from this, he concluded, was that restrictions and lockdowns “have to be maintained for substantially longer than a few weeks. Most likely, 12 weeks work much better than 4-6 weeks.”
People have entered into a state of mental lockdown. Many have shut down to the overconsumption of information and simply grasp onto the hope that things seem to be opening and that, therefore, the worst is behind us and the future is simply a slow decline from present extremes. This is a very hopeful – and one might say naive – perspective. It is fine to hope for miracles, or even to wish them into being, but misguided to plan for them.
Instead, we should mentally prepare ourselves for a second wave of the pandemic and the potential for future lockdowns as a result. South Korea and Germany are among the most successful and advanced nations in dealing with the pandemic, and when their leaders are saying to “brace for the pandemic’s second wave” and that “we are still at the beginning,” we should take these claims seriously.
We are still in the early stages and months of this pandemic and in understanding the virus itself, so nothing can be said of the near and medium-term future with any certainty. Well, except for one thing: the virus is here now.
“Exactly how long remains to be seen… It’s going to be a matter of managing it over months to a couple of years. It’s not a matter of getting past the peak, as some people seem to believe.” – Marc Lipsitch, infectious disease epidemiologist at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health
One wave of lockdowns and social distancing is not going to be enough in the long term. Thus, it is important to manage our expectations and understandings. The virus comes in waves and so we must become like liquid, more able to adapt to the contours of the wave and outlast its peaks and crashes.
Our societies must also become more adaptive. This means that we will need to be more willing to spend and support large segments of the population for extended durations of time. If our politicians and leaders do not meet these standards, widespread (unnecessary) suffering will result. But we can and we must adapt to the necessities and realities of the pandemic.
The pandemic does not have to be hopeless. We can and will get through this. But it is a test of our society and our civilization as to how we get through it. Do we prioritize reopening economies or do we prioritize keeping people safe? If we maintain or return to lockdowns, how do we address and meet the needs of the population confined to their homes? How do we meet the needs of those who don’t have the option to stay home?
There is hope in how we answer these questions and how we move forward through the pandemic and emerge from it. But it is important to not waste our hope on the empty notions that this is over or near its end. We are still in the beginning. There is more to come. Prepare yourselves mentally, arm yourselves intellectually, and plan accordingly.
Put your hope in the right places. But plan according to reality. Yes, we all want haircuts and to spend time with our friends and go out for a drink (or ten). But if the cost of that is to see tens of thousands more infections and thousands more deaths, I can make peace with some out-of-control hair. This “sacrifice” is nothing compared to the lives that will be sacrificed from reopening too early.
This is still the beginning. Plan accordingly.
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Thankyou for an intelligent , balanced and calm approach to the constant barrage of ” news” but not necessarily thoughtful information.
It will always be bout choices personally and as a society.
We are all on this planet together .Thankyou for reminding us.
KP
I think you missed the mark on this article. There is so much evidence that this was a planned event, designed by the usual players for financial gain.
Check out Event 201 which was a training exercise in October of last year. Check out the World Economic Forum and their extensive planning matrix, built and ready prior to the pandemic.
Check out the patents for corona virus, and also patents for vaccines.
Check out what doctors are saying about the empty hospitals, staff layoffs, germ theory, and much more.
This is an intricate web of planning with the usual players involved.
Let me know if you would like resources to expand your knowledge.
The fact that a number of people and institutions had made plans for a pandemic is not evidence that a pandemic was planned. Everyone knows there was going to be a pandemic at some point, and there will be more. That’s been the experience of humans through history.
That major institutions or people were planning for it simply means that they listened to scientists and experts long enough to eventually become convinced to take the issue seriously and start making plans for its inevitability.
People can plan and prepare for hurricanes and earthquakes, too. But that doesn’t mean they planned them. That’s quite a leap, and missing a lot of logic and facts on the way.
The conspiracy theories are a desperate attempt to find a singular culprit and provide simple answers to complex problems involving chaos in the interplay between the natural world and the social world.
The idea that this pandemic is some pre-planned event simply because some people and institutions are USING it for their own means, and they happen to have paid attention to what epidemiologists and scientists have been saying for years and decades, is mind-boggling.
I think that during a pandemic with a new virus we don’t know much about, it makes more rational sense to focus on the science and what the majority of epidemiologists, virologists and other scientists and experts have been saying and are saying. I think this needs to take precedence over our own ideologies and biases.
Either we can listen and learn as we go, or we can claim to have “all the answers,” and be proven categorically wrong with the turning of time, as all people who make such claims are.
When this pandemic started, I didn’t know much about epidemiology, pandemics, epidemics, virology or related areas of science. So I started reading books and material by epidemiologists, scientists, medical science journalists and historians, etc. After all, who better to understand a field or subject matter than those who actually have dedicated all their time and lives to being in that field, to studying it and practicing it, in laboratories and the field, those with knowledge and experience that I do not have. I must decide to defer my lack of scientific knowledge to those who actually have it on this subject matter.
I’m still learning, and I will be learning for a long time to come. But if I am to take all the wild claims and critiques from every corner of the internet and investigate them, I first have to build up a knowledge of what they are critiquing. Then I actually have the knowledge that makes me capable of determining the validity of their arguments.
In short, in order to critique and supposedly “debunk” something – and especially when it comes to the sciences – it is important to first understand the field and knowledge systems you are critiquing or “debunking.”
For example, I largely focus on analyzing and criticizing the economic system. But I have spent nearly a decade studying it in depth, and zeroing in on the sources of that system, on the financial press, government documents, memoirs of participants, academic research, journalistic accounts based on interviews and investigations, the teaching and practice of economics, learn the language and the meanings. I’m still learning that, but the more I know and learn, the better I understand the system, and the better I am also able to identify and understand the problems in it, the failures of it, the ideological problems, etc.
And now the world is faced with a viral pandemic. Yes, I am going to turn to the vast majority of the world’s epidemiologists, virologists, and other scientists and experts to learn from them. And I am taking them more seriously than a psychiatrist on youtube who claims to know more about viruses and pandemics than the world’s epidemiologists.
For example, if suddenly humanity were faced with an existential crisis involving phenomena in outer space (such as an asteroid on course to hit earth, or something like that), I would put more trust in astronomers and scientists with NASA and other institutions that deal with space, instead of someone who studied an unrelated subject and claims to know more and “debunk” everything the experts know about space.
I’m not trying to be flippant or rude, but when it comes to actually establishing evidence and understanding, the standards and methods should be raised some. When we approach a subject with our own conclusions already in mind, we only seek out more pieces of information that reaffirm what we think we already know.
I actually find most of these conspiracy theories to be quite damaging and dangerous, to be honest. Especially at this time. And they all seem to rely on dramatic leaps of faith and belief that ignore so many facts and realities, and never seem to account for complexity.
The natural, human and social worlds are complex and often chaotic, and highly interactive and reactive, both predictable and unpredictable. To assume that everything is “some plot” is to ignore everything that exists and has existed that contradicts that notion. Now, of course, plots can and do happen (conspiracies to go to war, or to murder, or to commit fraud, etc.), but that’s quite different from assuming that all things are always plots. It’s not logical.
Pandemics are part of human history. But now, suddenly, now everything that happens, was Bill Gates, or big pharma, or some government somewhere. Hurricanes aren’t “plots” by meteorologists, governments and engineering firms that get rebuilding contracts after the damage is done. Meteorologists aren’t attacked and derided nor their entire profession “debunked” because they predicted a hurricane would be worse than it was. The evacuations weren’t overreactions and “plots to take freedoms”, they were logical choices to be made.
I think it’s perhaps the unique nature of this pandemic, in that one this size and spread has not been part of the human experience for over one hundred years, therefore people have stress reactions and look for quick, easy answers, identifiable culprits to take their anger out on, and resort to, “it’s all a conspiracy”, because maybe it’s easier to deal with than the reality that a tiny small organism can bring our civilization to a halt and force us to adapt to its nature.
Instead of searching for ways to “debunk” the world as it exists, I want to learn from it, and learn what it reveals about our society, and our world, and how we can use that to better ourselves and our world moving forward.
Cheers
Andrew
Governments and central banks are shutting down the world to re-engineer society, impoverish billions, facilitate a vast land transfer, cover for the dollar losing it’s world reserve status, forcing an unwanted a global biometric ID, restricting people’s movements, censoring the internet and social media, instigating an “immunity card” into a payment system based on the central banks’ pre-planned transition to a digital currency, all while claiming the world needs a global reset where the financial stability board task force on climate change gets to decide what businesses can exist or not, while planning for the last two years or more for a sudden transition to a low carbon economy.
Are you freaking kidding me there’s no conspiracy?
The virus has never been isolated and purified, (those fraudsters at Toronto U. never wrote a paper AND they receive a major chunk of their funding from US govt sources). The covid-19 tests are using a reverse transcriptase PCR to magnify a tiny fraction of a gene in a protein our body produces, which may or may not have any connection to the lab manufactured SARS-COV-2. The tests aren’t even standardized. The science screams fraud on every conceivable metric.
There’s solid proof that the mask science is faulty, the social distancing science is non-existent, nearly all the deaths have been in nursing homes, the mortality rate is as low as a regular influenza according to the CDC’s own figures, and the agreement between Moderna and the NIH for the Coronavirus vaccine that Trump and Trudeau will be forcing you to get was first initiated back in 2015.
One of the signatories in the Moderna/NIH agreement is a bioweapons researcher in Chapel Hill NC. You know. Where they MAKE BIOWEAPONS. His patents include a chimeric Coronavirus spike protein. Oh. What a coincidence.
The Fed’s continued bailout of the 2008 bailout started last year on September 17th 2019, with billions sunk into the repo market, one month before a coronavirus pandemic “simulation” in NYC, called event 201 was organized and run by the Gates Foundation.
Blackrock has taken over the Fed. In the US and Canada.
The Malthusian and eugenics obsession of the central bankers and Bilderberg cabal has been exposed for quite some time. Ever since ‘silent weapons for quiet wars’ was found and distributed. They’re the only ones, along with the billionaires and transnational corporations who benefit from this “pandemic“ and the consequent illegal medical martial law.
Can you explain why the stock markets are still being inflated, despite trillions in bailout money and job losses across the board?
Suppose I told you that the conspiracy theorists only found the tip of the ice-berg, and that the real scenario is far worse than imagined. Why the bailouts of everything and everyone? Where did the trillions of dollars come from? Ever heard of the Exchange Stabilization Fund? I suggest some investigation into their role in this crisis. Also, the entire Debt-GDP ratio is above 322%.
322 is the famous number of Skull & Bones society at Yale, where Bush, Cheney, Kerry are from. I recommend looking into their history and role in every aspect of society.
They might pique your interest.
haha, this is a joke, right? Because I can’t possibly be expected to take any of this seriously.
322% is an arbitrary number that will be changed probably by the time I am done writing this sentence, and you expect me to believe the Skull and Bones have anything to do with global debt to GDP ratios??? Because of a coincidence of a temporary number?
I mean, that’s definitely one of the most ridiculous things I’ve heard, taking the usual nonsense of conspiracy theories and making it beyond laughable.
Sorry, but, what conspiracy theorists fail to understand (apart from seemingly everything) is that the world and humans and social relations are complex, and that most people, powerful or otherwise, react to events instead of secretly control them.
I have collected literally over 8 thousand articles on the economic and financial events and crisis, bailouts, stimulus measures, and all other major economic events and issues over the past six months and I can say without hesitation that the Skull and Bones has absolutely nothing to do with debt to GDP ratios (the “evidence” for that theory being… a single number, hilarious!), and, moreover, I have found nothing to support any of the wild and mindless conspiracies going around.
It’s funny how all the people advocating these conspiracies say things like, “keep an open mind” or “do your research.” When they clearly don’t do either.
I do ACTUAL research, not make believe nonsense numerology and mysticism, sorry. I use reason, logic and evidence, not baseless speculation and fantasy. I adhere to understanding the complexity of the world, not to simplifying things to baseless religious beliefs (as conspiracy theorists adhere to their baseless beliefs like religious zealots, unmoved by facts and that which disproves their belief system, only seeking out that which reaffirms their beliefs).
If you have come here for conspiracy garbage, you’ve come to the wrong place. I am here for facts and analysis, not fantasy and baseless belief systems.
I have no patience for this garbage when there is so much actual research to be done, and thousands of legitimate sources to parse through. My time is better spent not wasting it investigating the laughable claims of conspiracy theorists who don’t even accept very basic facts of the world.
If I am to be expected to believe in a particular conspiracy, I need facts, information, and evidence, not coincidental numbers that mean or say absolutely nothing and that I’m supposed to magically take as “evidence.” It’s laughable.
Nobody is saying what your “actual” research is invalid. However, to claim that what you don’t understand or won’t research is “irrational garbage” because it does not conform to your narrow, intellectual and supposedly “enlightened” worldview is a mistake.
Once again, why the trillions of dollars in bailouts? Where is that money coming from? Is not the virus a cover for the explosion in global Debt-GDP ratio which is insane for every country on Earth right now? So why do they use the number 322? They could have easily chosen any number, like I don’t know…320?
Now, check out Skull & Bones membership:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Skull_and_Bones_members
Now, if Skull & Bones is just another “ridiculous conspiracy theory,” and of which is just the tip of the iceberg of insanity in this intellectual illusion, then I suggest it is yourself that have closed your eyes off to a world that is not easily explained by logic, reason, and facts (and not everything can be explained by your logic, reason and facts).
I suppose it is your choice to box yourself in intellectualism and “reason,” when the world is anything but that. Yes, institutions exist and yes those academics can say whatever they want to justify their theories about the world operates…which is not always rational; hence why “theories” exist.
If the best argument one can come up with reject the weird and the unusual is, “garbage” then I am afraid your narrow, dogmatic views will be the very instruments used to enslave yourself and everyone else into a deeper pit of insanity and confusion.
Good luck with that.
Thanks, good luck with your funny religious beliefs. I’ll stick to facts.
Bye
Your intellectualism is as much a religion as the very things you despise.
Good luck resisting – you’re just falling into the Hegelian trap.
Ok, let me phrase the situation in a way you may be better understand (assuming one has some background in political theory).
Ever heard of the Hegelian dialectic?
The over-simplified model works like this:
Suppose a person, or a group, or an entity desires to control another group. It cannot directly attack this other group and take away their “rights.” So, it contrives a problem, a crisis to get what it wants. With the crisis, a solution will be demanded. This nefarious entity then provides the solution it already knew which would be required to fulfill its objectives or goals.
Now, this crisis can be anything – depending on the desired objective in mind.
From this crisis, a reaction will emerge demanding a solution.
Now, this is the best part for these entities: the solution has been pre-planned and preconceived before the crisis emerged in the first place.
Then, the other group faced with the crisis will willingly adopt the solution that was planned to “solve” the “crisis” that the nefarious entity has come up with.
Any entity needs a goal.
Then, apply the Hegelian dialectic:
Problem, Reaction, Solution.
To summarize:
Goal: To seize power and to remove people’s “rights” under the guise of securing them from real or imagined phantom threats.
The Hegelian dialectic:
Problem – for example, the 9/11 attacks or the burning of the Reichstag in 1933 by HItler and the Nazis
Reaction – the American people demanded justice, and a solution. The German people also demanded the alleged Communists and other parties be weaned under Nazi control.
Solution – Patriot ACT after 9/11 in the USA. In Germany, it was the Enabling Act which gave Hitler totalitarian and authoritarian powers.
Now, extrapolate the same process with some modifications to the coronavirus:
Goal: The bankers and investors want to loot the economy, knowing that the interest and principal on world debt limit is approaching the exponential curve on the world debt and monetary supply resulting in hyper-inflation and destruction of global economies. Also, the elites want to institute an authoritarian world government, and they cannot do it directly by just declaring they want to do so.
Hegelian Dialect:
Problem: Take advantage of a real disease or manufacture one, in either case, it makes no difference; shut down the economy of virtually every nation on earth, and plummet the stock markets. Galvanize social protests, riots, looting, murder and arson of entire communities and neighbourhoods. Let the left and the right fight each other.
Reaction: People’s life savings are gone in an instant, and the economy is in tatters as the “disease” spreads. The people will demand a solution to the said rioting, looting, murder, and violence.
Solution: Force “vaccines” (whether the vaccines work or not is irrelevant, it is the nature of the solution itself that matters) as the go-to solution to better “protect” the population, and enforce greater “social distancing” measures to keep people apart. Strengthen the police by militarizing the police further. Create Order out of Chaos (Freemasons love this saying, I recommend looking it up, it does not hurt).
Andrew is the same kind of person who would swallow the 9/11 “official” account without question while questioning the “financial crisis” within “reasonable” discourse.
So, Andrew what do you think happened on 9/11?
So secret committees that run the world’s financial affairs are not a problem then? So Andrew wants to be part of the Elite?
I am surprised Andrew still has not answered these questions posed by his readers. And where is Andrew getting his funding? Is there any conflicts of interest between what he purports to stand for and who or what he works for? Where does his grants come from? Andrew need to answer these and many other questions, otherwise, I and many others will just assume that Andrew is a paid shill and a lapdog of the elites and have every intention of becoming a member of the elites himself.
I have not answered several of these questions because it is clear that there is no reasoning with the majority of these nonsensical and accusatory statements and inquiries.
Who do I work for? Where do I get my “funding”? Do I want to be a member of the elite?
They weren’t answered because the questions themselves are not worth the time it takes me to answer. You want me to answer to every absurd accusation thrown at me on the internet instead of using my time to actually do work, learn, research and write. No, instead I am expected to answer to every inane statement to people who will only ever hear, “conspiracy!” in whatever answer is given.
I do not seek to waste my time arguing religious beliefs with a religious extremist. The conversation will go nowhere quickly, because as one commenter suggested on this or another article on this site, the views of conspiracy theorists do not have to be based on evidence, facts, documentation or traditionally reliable sources of information. They are a matter of “instincts and intuition,” or in other words: blind faith, belief, magical thinking. This is akin to religious or cult-like beliefs and thinking processes.
Individual historical conspiracies can and have happened. The assassinations of Julius Caesar and Caligula, as well as the Nazi final solution are examples of elite conspiracies either against other elites or against select segments of the population. But they are built around events or acts, they have specific, short to medium term objectives, and have legal and specific definitions and timelines. The world is not governed by a constant, omnipotent, ever and always controlling conspiracy.
The world is governed by an elite, surely, but we can understand our world better through an analysis of it that includes class, institutions, ideologies, individuals, relationships, complexity, (which includes acknowledging the occasional conspiracies, but also acknowledging that by nature of ‘conspiracies’ being secretive and illegal, our certainty about their objectives and successes are limited, to say the least. As a general example, simply knowing and being able to prove that two parties (people/institutions) had a meeting, is quite different from knowing or being able to prove what was said at, agreed to, or advanced by that meeting taking place.
One approach accepts a broader array of views and ideologies, as well as sources and knowledge systems; the other accepts only those which reaffirm its already established ideology of a conspiratorial worldview. All contradictory or critical analysis and information is simply dismissed or attempted to be discredited by conspiracy theorists as “part of the plot” or the result of “useful idiots.” It is everyone else who is manipulated and lied to and whose views are so warped from reality, surely I am immune to all such things! I do not need facts and sources, I have beliefs and ‘instincts’!
However, putting aside the deep flaws in the conspiratorial worldview, in answer to your questions (because I know everything I said will be dismissed as me ‘working for nefarious forces’ either as an attempt to aspire to elite status and join the ranks of the ruling class, or because I am some sort of intelligence asset or useful idiot who is doing the deep state’s bidding in undermining simplistic conspiratorial world views because there is only One Truth and One legitimate approach to understanding the world and attempting to change it, right?).
So to the urgency of all these ‘questions’ of my legitimacy and the sources of my “grants.”
I don’t have grants, and apart from the few and occasional donations from generous readers (usually amounting to one-time or continued instalments of $10 donations, for which I am most grateful, I might add), this writing work does not yet provide me with a source of consistent nor reliable income. My income comes from my full-time day job, where I do database work and other assignments for a non-profit that works in the education sector. But, I am certain you will find a way to frame this as ‘conspiratorial’ sources of funding.
It’s all very ironic, though, because there is no source of money or income which will not be perceived as a source of conspiratorial power and influence over my ideas and actions. If my income comes from the government (I’m obviously a ‘paid agent’ of the state), or if it comes from the corporate sector (propaganda), the non-profit sector (state and UN takeover of earth), personal wealth (something shady), donations (from who?!). And while I would agree that there are problems of money and influence in all of these areas, I would also argue based upon experience and reality that the establishment of an economic relationship does not automatically mean that the subordinate in that relationship (people needing the income) must immediately and always accept the views and objectives of those in the superior part of that relationship (those with all the money).
In other words, addressing the issues of money and influence are better aided through class and institutional analysis as opposed to mere, and simple, conspiratorial analysis.
So tell me, what source of funding is acceptable to you?
Because I’ve worked for conspiratorial media groups, but had to leave when my views no longer adhered to the strict doctrines of conspiracy. So I decided to go independent. I didn’t finish my post secondary education, and was instead focused on an autodidactic (self-directed) education free of institutional constraints, but with higher academic standards in conducting research and citing sources.
To do this, I started up an independent project funded exclusively through donations from readers online. I was amazed at the amount of support that came from around the world, but for a millennial growing up in Montreal, Quebec, it was not enough of an income to support me, and so I ultimately failed to achieve my objectives, and could not sustain myself writing, with small paychecks from alternative media groups that were free of corporate and state funding. But they can’t pay much.
I needed to actually work jobs that provided me with more of an income, but because I never finished school, my options were rather limited. Like a huge percentage of my generation, I’ve worked in the service and retail industry, and then I got lucky by getting a job in the non-profit and education sector. For the first time in my life I have a job with some benefits and a salary, which while helpful, does not cover the cost of living in the city of Toronto, where I now live, leaving me (at 33) of being in a position where I still am financially helped by my parents.
And you are essentially inquiring or accusing me of being “bought off” or aspiring to be an evil elite, my intentions are of course nefarious because I no longer accept nor regurgitate the conspiratorial world view. And of course, if one does not accept this world view, one is either part of the conspiracy, or subsumed by its manipulative whims. Kind of sounds like, “Accept the One God into your heart or you Heathens shall burn in Hell.” Religious thinking. Belief. And of course, history shows that when we choose to understand and make decisions for society and humanity based upon pure ‘belief’ (and rejecting all other forms of knowledge and information), everything goes really well for people and the world, right? When religious extremism rules, that’s the ideal, is it? That’s the objective? Sounds like the Dark Ages, redux.
But ya, I’m the one who has nefarious objectives or is part of the manipulated masses. Right.
So if I was bought off, or am manipulated by money (and its sources) to shape my views and dictate my research and perspectives, tell me: where is my payoff? Because I don’t see it in my bank account, I don’t see it in size or spread of my readership, I don’t see it in any perceived ‘influence’ I have. Where is it? If I was bought, why do I now feel completely betrayed? What was I bought for, $10 – $60!?
I tried to survive, research and write on donations from a limited readership of low to middle income readers, and I tried this in order to maintain my independence from institutional and ideological confinements. I would gather material and information from a wider variety of institutions and ideas, but I would not have my personal education dictated by any of them. I was responsible for the choices about what I wanted to study and learn. It is an approach I favour to this day.
But apart from being born rich and thus, free to do pursue what you want at your own leisure, you tell me what is the way that I can do this and still be considered “legitimate” in your eyes? Because here I was thinking that I have to make my own decisions to ensure that I can live, eat and survive in this world, and then try to continue doing the work I really want to do on my own time. But I wasn’t aware that my own decisions in this regard were your business, or your right to judge as to whether or not they were “legitimate” or part of some grand “conspiracy.”
Are you starting to get how absurd this all is?
I would love it if I had grants, if I had a secure and reliable income (from whatever source I could get it) in order to pursue what I want to pursue in my own studies and writing. But instead, because I am a millennial member of the vanishing middle class, my entire youth and young adult life shaped by transformative geopolitical events from 9/11, to the global financial crisis, to the global uprisings of 2011, to the coronavirus pandemic, my income comes from where ever I am lucky enough to get a job. And I am doubly lucky because I did not lose my job during the pandemic, unlike most people I know around my age.
What great benefit in my life accrued from joining this ‘conspiracy’, hmm? I’m really struggling to take you at all seriously, and do you perhaps start to understand why that may be the case?
What about you?
Where does YOUR support come from, hmm?
What forces are controlling your mind and shaping YOUR world views?
What are THEIR sources of funding and support?
What conspiracy are you apart of?
The whole conspiratorial world view directs people to inaction, to apathy and resignation to the status quo, precisely because it assumes everything is preordained, preplanned, and of course always unfolds in exact accordance with those plans (much like your own individual life, where I am sure everything that has happened in your life has gone exactly according to your plans, right? because that’s how human beings and human society works, right?).
So, every social movement seeking change, all efforts to understand, articulate and change the world (save for the conspiratorial one) are dismissed or discredited as manipulated or part of the plot. So never try to change the system, don’t do anything, don’t participate and don’t resist, resistance is futile, everything is preordained; do not seek to change the world you live in, for it is all already unfolding according to God’s plan. But unlike religions and cults, the conspiratorial world view offers no hope of salvation, no paradise or afterlife. Only the nightmare of a living Hell, both inevitable and indestructible. It asks people only to accept this Hell, without offering any way out of it. It is built around shared fear, which breeds a collective irrationality, making for an easily manipulated mass of people subject to the erratic whims of a disorganized faith-based world view.
And like cult members, they refuse to recognize their membership in such a cult. They are awoken, they see, all the others are asleep (sheeple), “heathens.” They have not yet accepted the word of God. We will bring them the Sad Word: all is hopeless, give up, submit, yet continue to criticize everyone and everything for absolutely anything. Dismiss and discredit all other information and perspectives. Be single-minded and myopic, but call it “open minded.” Reject all forms of knowledge and sources of information that do not conform to your pre-existing world view, and call this “doing research.”
So, I’ve answered enough of this foolish questions and accusations for a lifetime. I don’t intend to waste much more of my time and energy in the future in answering to every absurd claim made by conspiracy theorist commenters on the internet. Sorry, but I have a life, and in my decade-plus of experience on the matter, it’s usually a useless waste of time. That’s what happens when you attempt to have a discussion with or defend yourself from fanatics. There is no discussion, there is only accusation and assumption. There is no defending oneself, there is only dismissal of having any agency over your own thoughts and choices.
I could never evolve my thinking from that of a conspiratorial world view to one which I would now describe as more complex and based in reality, one which takes from a wide array of views and sources instead of confining both to a narrow margin. No, surely, I could never do such a thing independent of some manipulation or plot!
You said it yourself, in the clear simplicity of a dubious belief system: “I and many others will just assume that Andrew is a paid shill and a lapdog of the elites and have every intention of becoming a member of the elites himself.”
Right. Good luck with that world view.
I will not be engaging with you further.
Andrew,
I learned of your work a few moments ago from some guy spamming a youtube comment section about Indian phone scammers.
This is what the youtube commenter wrote:
“Banks with close ties to the Russian economy included Chase National, National City Bank and Equitable Trust, all of which are either Rockefeller or Morgan interests.[30] 2009 by Andrew Gavin Marshall , is he also a full of shit nazi apologist”
— Strange Youtube Comment Spammer
Honestly, at first I though you were a conspiracy theorist, since you seemed to be writing about economics without any type of professional credentials (I’ve looked at the argument for “Organic Intellectualism” — and I share some of the same concerns Hampton lists on their about page) I am generally highly skeptical of anyone who wishes to criticize something without having first taken the time to understand it. Humans just seem to have this very lazy and narcissistic notion of believing they are experts in everything without having done any of the due diligence.
Initially, my exploration of your work was fueled by my curiosity in trying to figure out how do people who spread conspiracy theories fund themselves. After having read this comment section, and looking at what you are saying, I must admit truthfully that I was wrong in my assumption. I admire the fact that you have continued to respond in this comment section with civility and wellformed responses.
Thank you for your work.
I find your work in economics interesting, in that I have studied economics at university (did not major in econ), and I have an interested in Islamic Economics, which prohibits certain interest based transactions and “uncertain” transactions. Obviously, these prohibitions don’t work so well with the modern economic system.
Thank you for your comment. And yes, once upon a time I would have considered myself more in the ‘conspiracy’ camp, but I continued to read and learn over the past decade-plus, and have put a particular emphasis upon studying the global economic, financial and monetary system.
But I agree with your point that in order to criticize something – some field of study, belief system, knowledge system – one must first put in the time and effort to study that knowledge base.
While that certainly applies to the field of economics, I think it especially applies to those (conspiracy theorists) who claim to know all there is to know about epidemiology and pandemics from their ‘hours of research on YouTube’ compared to the many years and decades of education, research and practice by those actually in the field.
The starting point should be to study the field and its knowledge systems, then, when you turn to the critiques, you are better equipped to understand those that are relevant and logical, versus those that are nonsense or conspiratorial. Conspiracy theorists think that after watching a 30-minute YouTube video they can conclude that epidemiology is bad science because they were hand-fed a bunch of critiques that they have no basis of actually understanding, then they can comfortably conclude that they have no need to learn anything further, because the field has already been “discredited” in their eyes.
It’s basically a method of avoiding having to do any actual work or research, and ironically calling it “research” in the process. I have personally spent the better part of the past decade studying economic, financial and monetary matters, and the politics of the world economy, and the more I study and learn the more I realize how much more there is to discover. And I also discover more to criticize and question and reflect upon, but in such a way that the answers become more complex, rather than more simplistic.
It becomes a truism that the more you know, the more you realize how little you know. It seems to work in the inverse for conspiracy theorists, where the less they know, the more they think they know, and with greater certainty.
And where I study and learn about economics so that my critiques may be better informed and more relevant (to reality), you can see from comments on this blog that most people begin their critiques without having any concept of what they are talking about. Hence, why you get people thinking that there is a conspiracy to raise debt-to-GDP levels to 322% because that is the magic number of the Skull & Bones society at Yale, and they read the wikipedia page for that group, so it all somehow makes sense (even though simply repeating the argument makes me feel dumber by the letter). It’s quite sad, but I am definitely a different kind of thinker and writer than I was when I was in my late teens and early 20s.
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Andrew,
Honestly, at first I you were a conspiracy theorist, after finding your name mentioned by some youtube commenter , who was writing a ton of comments on a video about Indian phone scammers. Here is the comment:
“Banks with close ties to the Russian economy included Chase National, National City Bank and Equitable Trust, all of which are either Rockefeller or Morgan interests.[30] 2009 by Andrew Gavin Marshall , is he also a full of shit nazi apologist”
— Strange Youtube Individual
I looked into your initially, because I was curious in how people who spread conspiracy theories fund them selfs. My basis for this assumption was the fact you were writing on economics, without having professional credentials in the field. (I read about the idea behind “Organic Intellectualism” on the about page for Hampton, and I agree with some of the concerns)
However, after reading through your work, and especially this comment, I was clearly mistaken in my initial labeling. I want to apologize for that!
Thank you for the work you do.
I did explore your work a bit further do my interest in economics, having studied it at university (did not major in econ), and my interest in islamic economics which prohibit certain interest based transactions, and certain types of “uncertain” transaction. These prohibitions are very much in conflict with the modern economic system.
So Andrew wants us to resist, react, rebel, and to what end exactly???
And who said anything about sources being ignored? Everyone uses sources – facts and intuition are not mutually exclusive.
At this point, one gets the impression that Andrew wants to appeal to authoritative sources on the chance that they may be right (which they are, some of the time).
One needs both facts and intuitions/instincts. Otherwise, one could be driven by misleading “facts.”
Andrew does not recognize that all of society is a CULT; everyone and everything is already part of the largest cult of all – the 3D world. We are all pawns in the game of divide-and-conquer.
Intellectualism is also a cult, just like conspiratorial worldviews.
Except, with one caveat: the conspiracy is driven by intellectual activity and is the source of the insanity going the world.
The “conspiracy” is driven by insanity, which is everyone.
Just watch and wait, and enjoy the end of the world. Reaction, resistance, and revolution give the elites an excuse to pounce on us.
Exactly proving several of my points.
“Do nothing. It’s all a reductive conspiracy theory. Resistance is futile, accept your fate.”
Learn nothing, change nothing, reaffirm collective ignorance posing as wisdom, inference mistaken as information.
There is no accounting for complexity, or adjusting for human nature. It’s all a plot. Everyone is blind and stupid. (“except for me, of course, I can see!”)
You do realize the Matrix was a metaphor, not a documentary, right? Metaphors are not meant to be taken literally.
And again, one is capable of criticizing all institutions and sources of information without dismissing all of it outright as some evil conspiracy.
But as you said, “enjoy the end of the world.” Because you have nor desire to offer anything to stop that. You offer only this negative vision of Hell according to your scriptures (no doubt a plethora of youtube videos and memes), offer no way to prevent it, no benefit of seeking to challenge or prevent it, or change it, only to denounce everyone and everything else in the world in order to make yourself feel content and superior by doing absolutely nothing to actually benefit the world or the human species.
Congratulations, you have reaffirmed your own prejudices and successfully avoided ever having to adapt your views to new information.
How enlightened you must think you are. Humility is not for knowledge. You see and know all. It is preordained. Omnipotent beings rule the universe and make all decisions. All events unfold as planned.
Conspiracy theorists are not a social movement, per se, because they do not propose any actual movement or change. They are more of a regressive phenomenon, articulating an irrational and fanatic faith-based belief system; advocating stasis, inaction, indifference and apathy (and thus, subservience to the status quo and existing power structures); offering only demonization, dismissal and destruction; without hope, purpose, or positivity.
The last two sentences of your comment are particularly illustrative of the lack of consistency or logic in world view.
“Just watch and wait, and enjoy the end of the world.”
So we can assume that the end is preordained and soon (of course, it is ALWAYS very soon), it is a planned event, just as all events are, and all of history unfolding is unfolding according to those plans. Okay, we have established this as a framework for ‘reality’.
Now comes the next sentence: “Reaction, resistance, and revolution give the elites and excuse to pounce on us.”
Okay, so if we participate in this world by attempting to challenge, oppose, overthrow, or otherwise change the structures that rule this world, then we are just further advancing those already-pre-existing plans. But those plans are about giving “the elites an excuse to pounce on us.”
Okay, here is where we have an issue. What are they pouncing on, exactly? Since they already control everything and every event and manipulate all scenarios to their specific plans (and are always successful in doing so), then what is left to “pounce on”? What are they taking from you that they do not already control?
And if there is anything that they do not already control and determine, anything that they could take from you or “pounce on,” then your entire pre-existing argument is discredited, because that means that the elites do not currently control everything and determine everything. They would already have whatever it is that you think they are out to “pounce on”.
But, if you think that they don’t have YOUR freedom, including your freedom of thought, your freedom to express yourself, your freedom to act and do as you please, then you MUST accept that other people and groups also have those freedoms, and are equally capable of exercising those freedoms.
In short, you can’t have it both ways. Either everything is controlled and preordained and unfolds according to the great conspiratorial plan; or, people and groups actually have some agency over their own thoughts, objectives and actions (to varying degrees).
The irony is also of course lost on conspiracy theorists that if there was some vast conspiracy, they are most likely the end result of it. For what could be a more perfect conspiracy than to convince a large and growing mass of people to reject all knowledge, all information, and refuse to participate or seek to change society for the better? What could better serve elite interests than a growing segment of the population dedicated to “giving up” and letting the elites do whatever they want?
In the end, all that matters to them is being right, or thinking they are right. If they give up and let elites do whatever they want, and if more people join them, then guess what? Elites get to do whatever they want. And then when they do, the conspiracy theorists will look on and say, “See! I was right!”
And they will continue to remain blind to their role in making this a self-fulfilling prophecy, their role as being the ultimate victims of manipulation, the group most akin to “sheeple” and most serving of elite interests. But conspiracy theorists understand irony as about as much as they understand metaphor. They don’t understand it.
They don’t understand much of anything.
Well, if you insist that Conspiracy theorist don’t understand much of anything, then isn’t your “complexity theory” of how economics works just conspiracy theory with extra steps?
We can certainly agree that conspiracies exist.
There are white, gray and black conspiracies as I like to call them.
White “conspiracies” are innocent plans and have nothing devious about them.
Gray types are morally ambiguous and can be construed either way.
Black types are the “evil” ones – based on secret planning to break laws, commit murder, genocide, economic chaos, and so on.
Also, I may add that not all conspiracies are consciously driven or planned per se in the strictest sense of the word, “planning.” They are more-so inspired by intellectual learning, and aspirations based on “higher learning.”
So, Andrew, now that the “second lock down” has extended, and 2020 has proven to be only the first year of lock downs, and there are evidence that the lock down is not working, since numbers keep going up based on faulty PCR tests, which are false positives, how long are you going to prop up the elite’s “conspiracy theory” of the coronavirus? After all, the elites have their conspiracy theories too regarding how events occur (i.e. “accidentally” – despite the extensive “exercises” and “simulations” they did long before this Coronavirus thing became trendy).
A theory is just a way of explaining a complex situation by setting some kind of narrative to it – that is how humans survive. Are you seriously going to dismiss basic human survival instincts based purely on rationalizing away our natural intuitions as, “religion” even though previous commentators never mentioned religion. Why keep putting religion into your critics mouths? Are you seriously that RELIGIOUS yourself that you are afraid of a-religious and ir-religious folks without any religious devotion or commitment one way or another?
I’ve already addressed all this conspiracy garbage ad nauseam. All the false assumptions in the questions asked reflect the same lack of critical thinking in all the rest of the claims.
Once again rehashing the coronavirus as conspiracy trope, again claiming that lockdowns don’t work (instead of comparing the lockdowns that did work versus the ones that didn’t, or the non-lockdowns that were complete failures, like Sweden). No, no room for nuance, or for learning, or for accepting the very basic common sense notion that when we started this road in March of last year we (shockingly) did not know as much as we know now (fun fact: that’s actually how learning works!).
No chance of an intelligent discussion, a debate on what specific lockdown policies work better than others, and how this changes from place to place (y’know, because not everything is the same everywhere, contrary to conspiracy theory religious beliefs). Nope. Instead I am told that conspiracies are “inspired by intellectual learning”, whatever the hell that means.
But I agree that humans put a narrative to things to make sense of that. But there is a difference between looking at facts, utilizing reliable sources, collecting information, undertaking critical analysis, and putting together the pieces of a picture that are more complex, interactive and adaptive, telling a ‘story’ that is both more complicated and more interesting than the simple fairy tales of garbage non-thinking conspiracy theory religious belief fantasy world nonsense.
So yes, a narrative is helpful. But how about we foster a narrative that is developed in reality instead of one based upon a fantasy world that doesn’t exist? That’s why it’s religious thinking, because it isn’t based on facts or information, it’s based upon “belief and instinct”, which is to say, nothing. It’s not based on anything.
But Isaac Asimov actually best summarized your whole perspective, and that of the other conspiracy theory cultists:
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’”
Indeed.
Just because you choose to live in a fantasy world that doesn’t exist does NOT mean that people who choose to live in reality have to take your views seriously. They are not serious views. Taking willfully ignorant and factually empty ideas as being on the same level of legitimacy or consideration as ideas built on science and/or facts, research and analysis is highly corrosive to democracy.
Much like the QAnon conspiracy theorists acting like the psycho-babble dodo birds of the fascist insurrection (who are so devoid of reality that even the neo-Nazis are trying to disavow them), the wider conspiracy culture promotes ignorance, mindlessness, and stupidity, and all the while calls it “research” and “insight” or something as brazen as “truth.”
It’s a joke.
I’m not answering these laughable questions about the coronavirus “conspiracy” because they are not questions based in reality. If you want to have a discussion about how governments and other powerful institutions have taken advantage of the coronavirus to push through their own agendas, that is a conversation that could exist in the real world. There is plenty to discuss there. Same for a discussion about the successes and failures of different lockdowns and lockdown policies. There are things that have worked, that do work, and things that don’t or haven’t. That is also a discussion that can exist in the real world. And these discussions can be very revealing about our societies, about the political, social and economic institutions and ideologies, about the problems we face as a civilization and species, and then about assessing (or reassessing) our social-human priorities moving forward. We could have discussions that develop insight and lead to better understanding (aka: “learning”, something I know conspiracy theorists don’t understand, and thus, seek to ridicule and dismiss), which could potentially lead to pushing for better outcomes, better changes.
But no, instead you try to drag the discussion down to “coronavirus conspiracy” of elites (of course, without evidence, facts, research, information, just an assumption that I am to accept this fantasy and fantastical claim at face value, despite having zero merit).
I’ve said it before but if there was some grand conspiracy theory, it is likely designed to convince a large minority of the population that everything is run by a conspiracy, because what could be more beneficial for elites than to have a large, mindless group of people who don’t believe in participating in the world (because everything is a plot), and so they promote apathy and disengagement (for the most part).
I am so very tired of these empty-headed nonsensical arguments and myth-based perspectives that people expect me to take seriously… some how.
Sorry, but I will spend my time and energy and effort seeking to understand the real world, not whatever fantasy land with the magical fairies and pixie dust conspiracy theories that these questions and views emanate from.
If you want to write fiction, by all means, start your own blog or novel and do so. But I’m trying to promote discussion and thought about the real world, not Narnia or MiddleEarth. There are plenty of forums and social media echo chambers where you can take your talk of “it’s all a conspiracy” and have others reaffirm your delusions with likes.
Thank you and good day. Feel free to not return.
How do you know for sure your 3D experience is not a fantasy too?
If you have not noticed, by paying attention to the world around you, we crossed the threshold between “reality” and “fiction” back when we were told that this lock down is only, “two weeks tops.”
Event 201, Clade X, and “Dark Winter” are all exercises and simulations that the elites have “practiced” long before this coronavirus thing started. Event 201 was funded by Bill Gates. Do a simple search on it and you will find John Hopkins was also involved.
Even you, Andrew want to cling to the “scientific” reasons for this supposed lock down, and there are nuances and subtleties which you have completely ignored (like masking does not work for everyone, can cause complications, and require regular cleaning, and makes social interactions more difficult and enables crime). You, Andrew also cling onto your favourite conspiracy theory – i.e, your supposed devotion to the “institutional” perspectives which you study and adore, worship and want to protect.
Maybe you need to reassess your deeply held assumptions regarding where your research comes from. I mean at a personal and psychological level, not a purely intellectual exercise, since you got plenty of intellect to boost.
Democracy is as much a fantasy – humans made it up. Just like the tooth fairy. Democracy is no more real than any other fairy tale story – so even you, yourself want to uphold a fantasy as well – a very religious view I might add.
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/events/2018_clade_x_exercise/
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/scenario.html
https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/events-archive/2001_dark-winter/about.html
As these sources should hopefully suggest – this coronavirus charade of a game was planned a long time ago.
The simulation and the ‘real’ situation have merged into one.
Fiction and reality and whatever barrier that might have existed is already broken.
Again, not a single coherent argument is made. Plenty of absurd, fantastical claims though. So congrats on meeting the general LOW BAR of cognitive capacity that is displayed in these comments.
First, your example of the pandemic exercises, this is one of my favourite go-to’s for conspiracy theorists because it perfectly displays how lacking in reality they truly are.
Let me deconstruct the false assumptions and ignorance of this claim. First, yes, drills did happen, and they often do. Including for pandemics and outbreaks, and there’s a good reason for this, but it’s not because it was a “pre-planned” conspiracy, it’s because — guess what! — pandemics and viral outbreaks do happen, and they have happened all through human history. So for elites, who are always concerned with managing world affairs, and are concerned with maintaining the social order as it exists (in their favour), there is a rational interest in having plans in place for the eventuality and inevitability of the next pandemic.
How do they know it was coming? Because that’s science, literally. There is an entire field called epidemiology, not to mention virology, which I am sure you have dismissed in their entirety due to the fact that they do not support your conspiracy theory belief system. But over the course of developing for the past century, these fields actually have made it known, and public, for DECADES that pandemics are inevitable and will continue.
Kind of like how geologists and other scientists warn that some regions are likely to have earthquakes; they may not know WHEN, but they know it’s inevitable (does that mean that they, too, are part of a global conspiracy to cause earthquakes? haha).
So, after enough warnings from the scientific community, for enough years, and enough attention being paid by more and more members of the global oligarchy (such as Bill Gates, for example), eventually the subject is taken more and more seriously. This can then lead to drills to plan out what would be the response to a pandemic.
That explains the drills, not some conspiracy. Also, some of the largest drills actually assumed that the US and UK were the best prepared for a pandemic, which turned out to be false. So, if it was all “pre-planned”, then explain that one, genius? haha
But you can’t, because it’s a conspiracy theory and you CHOOSE to ignore facts and reality to cherry pick little bits of information (such as the fact that there were drills) to then fit into your wider fantasy world narrative of the grand conspiracy.
Also, your critique of me studying “institutional” perspectives is… I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue, that because I learn things from media, academia, scholarship, official reports, declassified/leaked documents, the public record, archives, y’know, actual sources of information, that this somehow delegitimizes me because unlike your ilk, I’m not getting all my “information” from some basement-dwelling troll sitting on his computer literally MAKING SHIT UP. So, that’s the “non-institutional” approach I guess? haha. Okay then. good luck with that. Literally anyone can make crap up and call it a theory.
But in terms of actual institutional studies, there is quite a lot of benefit. By this I mean not some made-up term to describe getting information from one of literally any institutions in society, but to actually undertake an institutional analysis of different structures and systems in society. I have spent years doing institutional analyses, studying banks and financial institutions, international organizations, think tanks, foundations, governments, central banks, finance ministries, etc. You study their structure, history, leadership, management, ideology, and effects/impact. When you do this, you learn a great deal, but you also learn that most conspiracy theories are garbage nonsense, because most of the things that conspiracies try (and fail) to explain are actually much better explained through coherent institutional analyses. Just like your ignorant comment about drills is better explained through class and institutional analyses than by your attempt to make it part of some conspiracy narrative.
Also, your attempt to conflate democracy with conspiracy theory is also a false comparison. Democracy, while yes, created by humans, is an ideal that we constantly must work towards, build, and protect, expand and defend and recreate and reimagine and it takes a lot of work and evolution. But as a concept, it is generally quite clear, the concept that people should have a say in determining the political direction (or leadership) that theoretically represents them. There are democratic processes (such as elections), and democratic ideals (full representation, equality, etc.), actions and outcomes. It is not perfect, and it is different from place to place and time to time and is generally mostly lacking in most places, but I have yet to hear any better ideas of what to build upon.
Conspiracy theories, however, are neither process nor ideal. Pointing out that people came up with democracy and also came up with conspiracy theories (which seems to be argument) means absolutely nothing. People came up with eggo waffles, too, but that doesn’t mean they have anything to do with democracy.
It’s all surface and no substance to any of these argument, claims, or supposed “evidence.”
I find it hilarious tat your links to these drills somehow proves that “this coronavirus charade of a game was planned a long time ago.”
Like, you do realize how ignorant and nonsensical that is, right? Your claim is so fantastical, and the evidence that you provide proves nothing of the sort. All it proves is that these drills took place, because apparently elites want to be prepared in the case of a pandemic (shocker!), and then, even after all that, turns out they weren’t prepared (again, shocker). So what can be explained by rationality, foresight (at a very basic level of knowing what EVERYONE knew, except, apparently, you!), and incompetence, you instead try to explain away as a vast conspiracy decades in the planning.
uh huh.
Here’s a funny anecdote for you. When this pandemic began, I realized that I didn’t know anything about epidemiology, so I signed up for some online courses put up by reputable universities on the subject (in addition to buying a number of books on the subject). In this one course I took, which was made at least a year or two earlier, one of the lectures noted that the next pandemic would be likely to originate out of the wet markets in China.
Now, as this is what likely happened in relation to COVID-19, does that mean that the professors who made the online course were part of a conspiracy to unleash covid on the world? (that is, after all, your logic). No, it doesn’t, because that’s ignorant and laughable. What it actually means is that these scientists, who know much more than you or I know about THEIR area of expertise, know that Chinese wet markets were very likely origin spots for an outbreak due to the concentration fo both humans and animals, and animals particularly prone to spreading disease, and because there was precedent for these markets to play a role in prior outbreaks. Hence, it was a scientific view based upon existing evidence to make an informed guess as to a likely origin spot (though they did not say it was the *only* place, just the most likely).
It’s funny how I remember hearing that and thinking, “well, they were validated.” But now I just imagine you conspiracy theorists taking a course where a scientist says something like that and you all conclude they are part of an evil cabal of scientists who want to destroy the economy to implant you with Bill gates microchips.
Like, c’mon guys, this is really embarrassing, to be this out to lunch, this disconnected from reality. It’s time to grow up, let go of the fairy tales, say goodbye to Santa, the tooth fairy, the easter bunny, and the global conspiracy cabal that controls any and all events.
I remember back when I was more mired in this demented world, and buying into a lot of its bullshit, but I kept running into problems with logic and history. I remember every single hurricane, tsunami or natural disaster, all the conspiracy theorists would claim every time that it was the result of secret weather weapons or experiments. Every. Time.
It got to the point where I just had to be like, “Okay, but there WERE hurricanes prior to the invention of weather weapons, so surely, there will still continue to be naturally-occurring weather events and natural disasters.” I also saw evidence to suggest that several governments had and were developing technologies to tamper with the weather, but that also doesn’t prove that they do it all the time, or that it is successful! (that’s an important point, fyi). But no, no room for logic, no room for history, only conspiracy, only fantasy.
But ya, go on thinking that MY approach to research is the problem.
Really, though, I mean it: it’s embarrassing to read these comments. The fact that so many of you think this way, and I use the word “think” quite liberally here, is, really, disturbing and upsetting. I fear for the future of humanity.
So maybe you need to start reassessing your own deeply held assumptions. Because that is actually what I do for myself on a continuous basis: constantly learning, questioning, re-learning, adapting and evolving. I don’t start by making up a conclusion and searching for little cherry picked pieces of information to support my warped, myopic and ignorant analysis of the world.
But feel free to not continue posting this garbage here, I am lost for patience. This site wants to discuss the real world, not mythical fantasy fairy lands that all you people seem to live in. Go write some fan fiction somewhere, spare me your delusions and child-like fantasies.
Thank you.
Goodbye.
What if intellectualism is a religion?
Religion is a belief system that is not based upon fact or evidence, yet shapes an entire world view and attempts to manage and define behaviours and morality.
“Intellectualism”, as you all seem to be fond of calling it, is about the pursuit of knowledge, continuously learning more and adding to existing systems of knowledge. Like science, it is about method more than results, about the constant pursuit of more knowledge and the acceptance of continued learning and growth.
This is hardly a religion. It’s just easier for conspiracy theorists to portray all other thought patterns and methods of inquiry as “religious” in approach because their own methods are not based upon inquiry and development, upon research and evidence, but upon a pre-existing rigid system of beliefs based upon faith, not fact, which determine their outlook on everything else, for which they define values based upon the religious edicts of ‘sin’ and ‘evil’. It’s not a method of inquiry, it’s madness. And it’s not based on “research”, it’s based on nothing.
So no, “intellectualism” is not a religion, because the pursuit of knowledge for knowledge’s sake is not a religious activity or belief.
I think I keep seeing conspiracy theorists on here claim that my “intellectualism” is a religion because they have no defense for their own beliefs, since they are not evidence-based, but faith-based, and so they assume everyone else is just as uninformed and seemingly incapable of differentiating between facts and information and garbage conspiracy theories as they are (though of course, they think they know everything!).
But because I adhere to doing actual research, reading, learning, and continuing to develop ideas and understandings (instead of starting from the perspective that I know everything and there’s nothing left to learn, which is the conspiratorial view), somehow that makes my approach religious?
You know, just saying words in sentences doesn’t mean you are actually making a valid or coherent point.
I explain my views, deconstruct these wild theories, explain the logic and problems with these false belief systems, and all I get in response is, “where’s your funding coming from?” or “have you considered that doing research is a religion?”
No, no I haven’t, because that’s incredibly stupid. These arguments are incredibly stupid. There is a saying that there’s no such thing as stupid questions, but reading the comments on this blog really makes me question that premise.
No one seems capable of putting together a coherent argument based upon a logical assessment of the available facts. It’s like a playground of children just shouting words into the void without any sense, reason or basis in reality, and then they expect to be taken seriously or to have their “arguments” taken at face value?
Hilarious!
So since we have not heard a single thing about the flu, common cold, or seasonal influenza since coronavirus conveniently came along, does it mean they magically disappeared? Did we cure them somehow?
If something about this does not feel odd, then what will make it feel weird?
Yeah, kind of funny how during a pandemic, when people are wearing masks, social distancing, washing their hands more frequently and taking other preventive measures that suddenly we see a decline in other easily transmissible infections.
What’s odd about that?
But no, let me guess, it’s… *sigh*… a conspiracy…?
If Andrew can prove that 9/11 is not an inside-job, some serious questions about the coronavirus and the lockdown, then I would be satisfied.
There are several glaring issues regarding 9/11:
First, how did 19 Islamic hijackers using nothing more than boxcutters overwhelm tens to a hundred or more passengers on a plane and overwhelm their pilots?
Secondly, why were they then allowed to fly around the nation for almost 2 hours, and hit their target despite having incomplete and incompetent training in a basic Cessna training jet?
Why was NORAD inactive on 9/11 and where were they?
Why did WTC 1, 2, and 7 collapse neatly on their footprint?
Why was WTC 1, 2 and 7 official cause of collapse due to, ‘fire?’ even though, in the year 2004, Madrid also had a tower being engulfed in flames and did not collapse?
Why was the media, the US government and the military so keen on alleging it really was Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda who did 9/11?
Why did the Pentagon remove all evidence of the supposed planes which hit the Pentagon in the immediate aftermath? And explain why the hole that hit the Pentagon did not fit the profile of an airplane?
How could it be even remotely possible that 19 hijackers following instructions from a man in a cave thousands of miles away can overwhelm the 16 intelligence agencies of the US of A, the most powerful military force in the world on 9/11?
Why did Bush Jr. not immediately move to a safe location if he knew that the WTC were under attack?
In the early 2000s, cell phone technology could not have been used in the air – so how did we suddenly get the cellphone recordings of the conversations on those alleged hijacked airlines?
And finally, how was it possible to conveniently get the ID of all of the hijackers near the site of the crime, and then immediately remove the evidence of the crime of the 9/11 ‘terrorist’ attacks to Fresh Kills landfill without further investigation?
Why did people report implosions at the time the Towers fell? Why then, did the media and government later ignore all of these eye-witness accounts in their official reports by NIST and the 9/11 Commission?
Now, onto coronavirus:
Fine, simulations are for “preparations.” Let us assume that this is true, and that this is what the elites rely on for “preparation.” Let us assume also that the PCR tests are also accurate for the sake of questioning, then is it not remotely possible that there is a chance of mis-diagnosing the common flu, season influenza and the common cold for coronavirus, also called SARS-COV-2?
In 1957-58, there was an Asian Flu pandemic. There was no mass shutdowns, vaccinations or need for a vaccine passport of any sort. In fact, it is historically documented that the Asian Flu of that year was worse than the mortality rate of COVID/coronavirus in 2020 to the present.
Why did the WHO change their definition of a pandemic? Just check your old employer’s website for the evidence – http://www.globalresearch.ca for the article regarding that.
Klaus Schwab and the World Economic Forum have been preparing for an opportunity for their “Fourth Industrial Revolution” via 5G high-tech surveillance for years, and that is a known fact. Also, Schwab wrote a book about how COVID-19 can bring about the Great Reset agenda, which is the resetting of everything we once took for granted, from business to education. to healthcare and to the management of the economy, capital and currencies.
Is it remotely possible that the virus, known as “coronavirus/COVID-19” was manufactured in a bioweapons research lab? Is it also possible that COVID is the common cold/flu or influenza? After all, this new supposed pandemic shares many similarities with the genetic outlines of the common cold and its many strains? Does not the common cold, flu and influenza also evolve over time? Could it be remotely possible they are the same, if we assume it is not a biological weapon of some sort?
Also, regarding the nature of these lockdowns:
Why did the governments all over the world impose a lockdown on the entire planet over the common cold/or supposedly called, COVID?
What economic incentive would there be to close down all of their economies?
What background financial situation is going on that we do not know about?
Could it be possible that the entire world is now bankrupt, so the banks need to seize and steal everyone’s assets by bailing out everyone and everything, starting with the corporations?
Why are lock down procedures and rules rather selective in their application? For example, ski hills and alpine slopes are perfectly safe – where social distancing, and masking is already there by default? Yet, golf courses were allowed to be open? Also, small businesses were shuttered left, right and center. Finally, corporations like Facebook and others got bailed out more than anyone else, and were kept open essentially.
How is even reasonable that stock markets are keep getting higher and higher, while the real, industrial, productive working economy has been shuttered and destroyed?
Are you not going to acknowledge the hyperinflation that is happening right now with these bailouts? How long can printing of imaginary money go on?
Also, why would one assume that the masking strategy actually works for everyone? There are certainly discrepancies between individuals and how they respond to the mask?
Also, why keep healthy people locked up? In the past pandemic of 1957-58, there was no need to impose such de facto medical martial law?
Call me mad, crazy, insane or whatever – I would go wherever the signals point regarding the pursuit for truth. This means also considering the absurd, the ‘magical’ and the weird. There are limitations to the institutional perspective which is restricted by its dependency on “official” sources and what is ALLOWED to be leaked out to let the “researchers” and “conspiracy theorist.”
Conspiracy theorists are just the opposite side of the same elite – they are two wings of the same bird.
What I am getting at is 5D chess. One need to go to the SOURCE, the foundation of intellectual thinking, the sources of the modern world and of science, “research” and modern elitism. Elitism need not come directly come from associating with the Global Elites – rather, enough intellectual devotion and blind obedience to the intellectual mindset is enough. Intellectualism is far from a flawless process. It is deeply flawed since it depends on a flawed language and therefore a corruptive THOUGHT process.
There are way more underneath the surface of what you are allowing yourself to study in the institutional sense. What you are studying is all nice and true, in the very limited 3D sense. Without digging further, one is missing out on what is beneath the ICEBERG.
This relates to psychological warfare, subconscious manipulation of humanity via subliminal hypnotic suggestion and the endless pursuit of supposedly “known” knowledge, which has NO EDGE!
Consider this phrase: ‘Real eyes realize real lies.’
This is an example of subliminal messaging via THOUGHT and LANGUAGE – these two impediments create the very reality which one is experiencing or under the illusion of experiencing.
What may appear logical, reasonable, and factual is total insanity compared to what we already know without thinking (when one is in the moment itself, when the moment presents itself).
So, all that is to say that you rely on what, non-existing sources? haha.
This is what I don’t get. Instead of criticizing official sources of information, including media and academic or official sources (of which there are a number of institutional problems, biases, limitations, etc.), conspiracy theorists simply dismiss them outright.
So instead of having a discussion about how, say, economics or political science is flawed, how the disciplines are developed, where their strengths and weaknesses are, it’s just met with, “conspiracy”, 3d/5D whatever that means, I’m not even going to pretend it’s relevant to the world.
But it’s all magical language and claims of “intellectualism” (it’s funny, i’ve only ever seen conspiracy theorists use this word, otherwise it’s just considered to be a very basic concept of rational inquiry applied to a broad range of disciplines and subjects, but moving on).
Subliminal messaging, 5D universe. under the iceberg. hypnotic suggestion.
Listen… this is all a very infantile way to explain away the fact that you do not do actual research. What are the sources for your 5D information warfare subliminal messaging iceberg reality information fantasy land?
Is it… someone’s blog, a youtube channel, totally discredited alternative news sources that do not cite sources? Is it dreams you have? I don’t get it. All this effort goes into discrediting (instead of criticizing with rational argument) every accepted source of information… well then, where DO YOU get your information from? Because if it’s random blogs, threads, youtube videos and social media sites, then where do THEY get their information from? Because if their sources aren’t, somewhere along the line, official sources (whether it’s academic, scholarly, declassified, media, journalistic, official documents, etc.) then they are simply MADE UP.
Simply saying, “I reject the 3D universe of sources” (besides being hilarious in its absurdity) does not actually explain where you get your “information”. But if, as I gather, your sources are just the ether of absurdity in the Internet’s endless open void of screaming nothingness, then it’s not to be taken seriously. The fact that you probably read Joe Blow’s blog or watched a 30-minute video on some idiot’s youtube channel does not mean that you have gained insight into the mysteries of the universe beyond the “known” knowledge of official sources. it just means that you’re gullible enough to believe any made up crap you come across.
You all come here complaining that I haven’t joined your cult (or rather, that i escaped your cult and cult-like thinking many years ago), but I bet if I made a blog where I just sat down and literally MADE UP a bunch of crap without any sources, you’d all eat it up.
“The globalists are secretly goblins who are immune to COVID because they unleashed it through their puppets in the sciences who they control with brain waves from the microchips they installed in vaccines 20 years ago when they planned this pandemic, blah blah” — you’d all buy that stinking pile, hook, line and sinker. I wouldn’t need to offer a single source, I can just sit at my computer and make stuff up, because “I feel” like it might be right, or my “instincts” say that reality is not real, therefore I can just make it up as I go, and all these mindless, cognitively-challenged, largely uneducated, uninformed, overly-confident masses of people will nod along in agreement because they, too, want simple, superficial answers to complex questions and problems, and they don’t want to actually have to do the work to learn and grow.
It’s quite laughable that to just try to learn things, in the so-called “limited” 3D world as you call it (again, whatever that means, I’m not asking, because it’s clearly garbage), it actually takes a long time to study and learn and develop. It takes years, in fact, and it’s never a process that is actually complete. New information comes along and has to be accounted for.
But for you “chosen few” who can peer beyond the 3D into the secret 5D world below the iceberg (again, haha!), all it takes is looking up a 30-minute youtube video by some idiot with a camera and a mic, or read a blog post that someone just divined and made up.
So, someone who actually takes to the task of learning and studying spends years doing so. Someone who apparently can see beyond all the existing knowledge into the secrets of the universe… it takes what, 30-45 minutes? And you think that THIS is the more reliable method?
Again, these arguments are infantile and quite embarrassing to read and engage with.
Time and again, I am bombarded with you conspiracy theory cultists and I have yet to come across a grand conspiracy theory that holds up.
The “logic” of conspiracy theorists exists in an uneducated universe because it exists with vast empty spaces of knowledge.
Here’s a good example: there is a common line among conspiracy theorists that “the Rothschilds own the world’s central banks.”
This one is funny because it is so obviously false. Roughly only 12 of the nation’s nearly 200 central banks have even limited private ownership, and it’s not a secret which central banks these are, as it is determined in their legal structure (in other words, it’s not a secret). Further, for those that do have some private ownership, there is no evidence that suggests that the Rothschild family have ANY investment in them, let alone the majority holdings. (but again, facts are stubborn things, and so conspiracy theorists just ignore them because their “instincts” and “intuition” suggest that the Rothschilds do own the world’s central banks). There was an instance roughly 150 years ago, when the Rothschild bank in London bailed out the Bank of England. This is usually the one instance in which conspiracy theorists can cite an actual fact. The problem, however, is that it wasn’t a permanent bailout, it was a single event, limited in time and effect, and did not result in them “owning” or “controlling” the central bank. In fact, the Bank of England was later nationalized and controlled directly by the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Parliament for most of the 20th century until the 1990s when it was made independent once again (which does not mean it was OWNED by private banks, just not answerable to elected authorities). In other words, a single bailout of the Bank of England by the Rothschilds was confined to a time and circumstance in which it took place. And the political, economic, social and institutional history of the UK, international monetary relations, and the Bank of England over the past 150 years shows how things have actually changed and evolved (that pesky thing called “learning”). Instead, conspiracy theorists can take this one moment, nearly 150 years ago, and then ignore ALL of the history in between then and now and just make ridiculous claims like, “the Rothschilds control the world’s central banks”, even though there is no actual proof, evidence, facts or information that supports this.
But hey, who needs facts and sources? Obviously not you and your fellow cult members.
And yet, you all want to be taken seriously? Why? Who could take you seriously and maintain any self-respect?
These theories are not the product of secret, unseen wisdom and insights into the hidden recesses of the universe, they are infantile and undeveloped, overly-simplified and, frankly, idiotic explanations for the state of the world.
If ya’ll really want to gain insight into the secrets of the world, you actually have to put in the time and effort to learn and study, instead of just googling random videos and blogs that try to discredit all other sources of information.
Enjoy your cult echo chambers, but please stop coming back to my blog. My aim is to discuss the world as it exists (not your fantasy land Narnia nonsense), and I do not welcome or encourage further cult commentary and child-like views here. Go start a fan fiction page or something where you can write your fantasy novel, this is for real talk about the real world. I Understand from your points that you choose to not live in the real world, that much is clear, but please stop spewing your garbage all over my website. I don’t have the patience for it, I have NO respect for it.
Come back when you’ve grown up a bit and matured beyond these laughable and embarrassing claims and fantasies.
Thanks, goodbye. Please… stop. Go elsewhere. You conspiracy theory cultists have taken over everything like a viral pandemic. Leave me out of it. I do not respect it or these views.
Bye.
Technically, isn’t every intellectual activity made up by humans?
Oh, is this one of those things where you think you’re being deep in order to make a point but it doesn’t land at all? Seems like it.
Technically, yes, intellectual activity is the domain of human beings. And here’s a shocker, all human activity is the domain of humans.
Now what does that have to do with your point? I guess we’ll never know, because it’s nonsense.
Human brains created the lightbulb, too, but guess what? Lightbulbs actually exist, unlike your stupid garbage conspiracy theories.
Not ONE of you has made a valid argument. At all.
Yet you all seem so ready and willing to further embarrass yourself by continuing to say such silly, childish things and expect others to take you seriously.
Like, sorry, guys, I’m not a 19-year-old idiot anymore. Gonna have to try harder to be taken seriously.
I understand the bar for most of you (in terms of discerning reality from information) is very very… VERY… very low… but c’mon, not everyone is as gullible and empty headed as the conspiracy theorists.
No matter the subject, context, or issue, conspiracy theorists consistently show themselves to be the LEAST informed and MOST ignorant people around.
Every. Time.
The most useless, least realistic, absurd and ridiculous ideas and fantasies.
It’s painful to watch. it would be laughable if it wasn’t so dangerous.
I am curious how open Andrew would be to “coincidences” based on observable facts?
“Coincidences” about what? Because just saying words does not actually provide any evidence.
And if you mean things like the “coincidence” that elites find a way to profit off of the chaos of the pandemic era and lockdowns, then that’s not a coincidence, that’s a normal function of class. Of course they do, that’s literally what they do and have always done. That does not imply a conspiracy, however.
So again, you want to provide evidence of a conspiracy? Great. Do it. But no one has provided any such evidence. They just cherry pick random pieces of information (if they attempt to even do that!), make wild assertions and conclusions based upon an absolute minimum of data, and then assert “conspiracy” or “coincidences” because y’all are too lazy to do any actual work and just jump from one spot to the next instead of actually doing real, genuine, legitimate research.
These empty-headed arguments are beyond annoying and are observably infantile.
You have facts? Fine. Share them. But I’m going to go ahead and guess, that much like all these other mindless conspiracy theorists, you too have probably taken a few select scattering pieces of info (depending on whatever subject you are claiming is a conspiracy) and then ignore or dismiss ALL other information that doesn’t support your wrong theories.
If what conspiracy theorists say are all nothing more than “garbage” to you, then explain this:
https://monolithtracker.com/
Context: Monoliths appeared in the novel 2001: A Space Odyssey by Arthur C. Clarke and now, in the year 2020 to the present, Monoliths showed up.
Bahahahahahaha! Again, you all are such jokes. This is laughable.
Your link is meaningless. You think that monoliths appearing is evidence of some grand conspiracy behind everything?
I mean, do you people have no shame or embarrassment for how empty-headed this all is?
It’s not even worth the breath to scoff at. It’s pathetic.
Why should one be a ashamed, embarassed or otherwise be guilty for questioning the very fabric of “reality?”
What shame is there attached to being a little “eccentric?” Why should mine self-respect be defined solely by one full of intellectual superiority and snobbishness?
Why should certain weird and odd synchronicities or coincidences be dismissed just because Andrew himself cannot accept them?
After all, this area of synchronicity study and the study of myths and legends a serious business by storytellers and scholars alike.
Freud, Jung, and Joseph Campbell have all studied these disciplines – it is what made the 3D world a “script” in the first place.
Andrew, what I am talking about is not conspiracy in the sense that it is all “planned.” No, this is the disciplien of synchronicity – the study of “coincidence” in every day occurences, the news and places, people, and dates, in language, sound, shape, colour and geometry.
First, one need to understand where the intellectual 3D trance state or hypnotic state emerged from.
And also, how did the intellectuals of the world become so clingy to their ideologies and their pet theories?
I am not saying in any way those theories are wrong, they are interesting for sure. However, they are quite boring compared to the “theories” surrounding synchroncity and the script that runs the 3D light show.
How then, did this trance emerge?
What I am doing below is bounce ideas off one another in a random fashion to break the deep hypnotic trance embedded in the mind of the reader. With-hold judgment and prejudice.
Simple, create a world system of duality.
This world system of duality involves good and bad, right and wrong, black and white, left versus right, and so on and on it goes.
Generate confusion.
Generate chaos.
Generate fear, anger, hatred, misunderstanding, and division.
Now one has all the ingredients needed to control the many by manipulating the few.
Next, encourage people to pick a side.
Does which side matter?
No, any side will do, and so, people will mindlessly slaughter and murder one another in the name of some mythical god or gods, science and intellectual status.
They all do it in the notion that, “My god’s penis is bigger, longer and has more girth than your god(s)!”
This is all done in the name of “love” and “peace” mind you, from the perspective of the religious fanatic, who is indistinguishable from the intellectual zealot.
The intellectual zealot upholds the doctrines of science, and dismisses magic.
The religious zealots dismisses science and worships seance, or the belief that they can commune with the dead, or God.
Both science and religion form a false duality.
Meanwhile, intellectuals, in their ivory tower look down upon the “masses” of “ignorant” people who are into the weird, absurd and the crazy and call them lunatics, all the while being deeply entranced into a hypnotic stupor by judging those folks as “insane.” Shaming, via guilt, fear and name-calling is the go-to strategy when intellectual elites (like Andrew himself) has no answer to the weird, the absurd and the odd experiences in the 3D “script.” One can be shamed for not being good enough, not smart enough, not obedient enough, not holy enough (for anything – whether religious fidelity or intellectual endeavours).
Also, certainly some of those same ‘weird’ folks revolt and despise intellectuals – so you see how the game of DIVIDE and CONQUER is achieved? This is the Hegelian Dialect in play as well. Generate a false problem – duality. Get people to fight over meaningless differences between religious or intellectual dogmas, and then offer the solution of “uniting” religion with science, intellectualism with New Age voodoo nonsense.
Also, religion, like intellectual endeavours require a lot of guilt, fear, and shaming to be effective. Both religious and intellectual activities require one to be told that one is never good enough, never smart enough, never holy enough, and never “legitimate” enough in the ivory tower of either religion or science/intellectual activities. Also, “competition” helps to ramp up the guilt, fear and shame. Very effective when one needs a certain elitist attitude to be at the top of the chain-of-command pyramid (never at the apex, just somewhere along the hierarchy – subliminally, read it as HIGHER ARK KEYS).
Science is now studying light with greater fervour.
Intellectuals had their “Enlightenment” – another false light.
Religious folk all worship light!
I say false light, and this will be apparent in the next paragraphs:
Consider this from a religious perspective:
In the Christian Bible, the Islamic Quran and the Hebrew Torah, God, “created” light. In particular, “In the beginning, God said, let there be light, and there was light, and the light was good…” Already, the reader is placed in a deep hypnotic trance-state even when I am just quoting this blood-soaked Biblical fantasy. We are also told, later in this same Bible that Lucifer/Satan is the light-bearer [and that Lucifer is bad – so the LIGHT is both good and bad?], but wait a minute! “God” also crated this light. So why is light good? Is darkness bad? It is just suggested, implied, implanted that darkness is bad, and that light is good. In reality, neither light nor darkness is good nor bad – they just, “are.”
Now, a more scientific perspective:
In science, for example, we are told that the ATOM is 99.99999999999999999% empty space. This is to say – there is nothing HERE. The entirety of the universe, humanity is not real and cannot be real, since ATOMS are not solid.
Electrons orbit in orbital shells around the nucleus – with the nucleus and the protons. Keep in mind, nobody has seen this ATOM for tens of thousands of years – only the ancient Greeks claimed to have seen this ATOM first hand. They did not have microscopes!
Also, from a scientific perspective, we are told that we may not know for certain both the location and velocity vector of the electrons – it is a PROBABILITY DENSITY FUNCTION! In other words, what is possible or probable is more than we can possibly imagine.
This is where superposition and entanglement plays a role – ATOMS can communicate with one another regardless of temporal or spatial restrictions. In other words, science is magic, and science is now religion!
Consider this, even at CERN, there is statue of the Hindu Goddess Shiva. Why?
This is to say, the weird and the strange are very possible and are just as real. This is the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.
Also, we are told, from a scientific perspective that the LIGHT behaves as both a WAVE and a PARTICLE.
In other words, it can be whatever we imagine it to be!
In Quantum Mechanics, there is also Schrodinger’s Cat paradox where we cannot know the content of the black box before opening it – hence why LIGHT keeps changing its characteristics when the observer looks at it. The observer is also made up of said atoms, which is divided LIGHT.
We are also later told, by the Bible that God then created ADAM and EVE. ADAM and ATOM, the words sound very alike. Further, EVE is the EVENING STAR, the electrons in constant dazzling motion of light and seduction to keep the neutral nucleus and the proton in check. In Egyptian mythology, it was ATUM who created THOTH. Or, perhaps it was THOTH who conjured up the ATUM. Also, in Christian prayers, one is told to say, “Amen” this “amen” comes from Amen-Ra [Amun], the Egyptian sun-god. Hence, this is further proof that subliminals are real, and are based upon mythology, which induces the deep hypnotic trance state we now experience.
By 5D chess, we need to consider the humans’ five senses and its relationship with the 3D physical world.
Our five senses can see, feel, taste, touch and hear the length, width and breadth or depth of the 3D experience.
The 4th dimension is Time. The 5th dimension is THOUGHT.
Consider a, “Thought Experiment:”
This will abolish totally the notion that the 3D world is legitimate.
Imagine you, as a baby when you were born, were never taught, heard or spoken a single word.
Would you be able to describe, let alone, see, feel, taste, touch or hear or think about the 3D world?
No, you could not possibly have any notion of what the 3D experience is, since all you would experience is nothingness before your “conscience” was manifested by the first sounds and words you hear.
However in that nothingness you still know a lot, what you know may be right, may be wrong, nevertheless, you still KNOW – without THINKING.
Does this mean that the 3D world outside of your experience is non-existent?
Well, from the perspective outside of ‘yourself,’ everything would appear to still be 3D, yet you, yourself, can never experience it, without the words, which are the THOUGHTs meant to bring about the SUGGESTION of the 3D plane/sphere.
Now, back to this “imaginary you” perspective – there is nothingness still for as long as no THOUGHT is embedded into your being from the moment of ‘birth’ to ‘death.’
Again, proof that we are playing a 5D chess match with ourselves.
So, now Andrew, do you see why the pure dismissal of what you do not appreciate or fail to study deeper into the RABBIT HOLE is so pertinent? This is not “a conspiracy” in the strictest sense of the word – it is about synchronicity, and the 3D script, which is a 5D chess board with THOUGHT at the helm, always directing the actors to wear their masks to play a role in the stage of life (Shakespeare comes to mind here, doesn’t he? Again, proof of the power of subliminal messaging using this flawed language).
Also, consider this:
What does the, ‘Age of Reason’ really mean? And why this obsession with ‘RESEARCH?’
This will not at all be intellectual, scientific or religious, logical or rational:
Reason = Ray Sun. These are the Rays of the Sun God, Ra from Egypt.
Research – Ray Searching – the search for light. Even the word, “search” sounds like, “surge.” This suggests, further, surging waters, i.e. the Great Flood at the Days of Noah (NOAA – National Ocean and Atmospheric Administration).
We are further told, in daily lives to put on a mask over our real faces and our true selves, and play the game of life on the stage and in the theatre of activities, since all life is but a stage and we are actors (Shakespeare comes to mind, doesn’t he? This is the power of subliminal messaging, via allusions). Political science also use the word, “actors” when describing politicians, the media, and even nations – so, this further “confirms” the fraudulent and faux parade that is our 3D life experience. Analogy is another tool of subliminal suggestion.
What the reader need to appreciate and at least contemplate without judgment is that when the author bounced these ideas off one another, that the ‘spell’ of the words we hear and read are meant to be broken and decoded, deciphered; exposed and revealed. There is no need to react to it with anger or fear, shame, guilt or retaliation.
Psychological warfare is most applicable in our language, the sounds we hear and the colours we see. MKULTRA succeeded when it convinced people they are “not” under mind control – this is when the mind control took place! Further, manipulate the few and one can manipulate many others into ignorance via intellectual, religious or scientific, “learning.”
In conclusion, this is not a conspiracy. It is much worse than conspiracy. It is insanity on a universal level. The “foe” we face is much worse than Elites. It is always our own minds, which is the mind of the “Luciferian” light-bringers. Our mind is their mind, hence our liquid crystal prism brains are nothing more than a receiving dish for the signals required to program humanity into hypnosis, a deep trance state and a state of obedience. So does free will exist? Yes and no – and it makes little difference in the 3D scheme of things.
References:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mechanics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coincidence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egyptian_religion
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/what-we-know-about-cias-midcentury-mind-control-project-180962836/
Bryan Kemila:
https://bryankemilafineartexperience.ca/blog/blog/
Okay, thank you for that, that was… hilarious!
Oh wait, you were being serious? Yikes. That is, again, embarrassing.
Love all the wikipedia citations, btw, that’s how you know you REALLy know how to do research, lol.
But seriously, I haven’t read that much nonsense in such a concentrated space since reading a transcript of a Trump press conference. That was impressive.
I do agree with you, however, that what you described is not a conspiracy theory, because at least a conspiracy theory has an object or subject in mind when it creates its fantasies around it, your diatribe was just pure nonsense. No structure, no concept, no subject, just… word vomit.
When you say “consider this” and go on to literally MAKE UP etymology of words you clearly don’t know, that was a new LOW BAR for the concept of ‘thought’. I can only consider that you were too lazy to even google the actual etymology of words. For example, “research” does not, as you suggest, have anything to do with “ray searching” (I had such a good laugh at this, thanks), it’s actually from a French word. So… guess you’re wrong… again. haha. Also, “reason” comes from Latin, not “ray sun.” Again, laughable, just like ALL of your statements and your “consider this” comments. The fact that you think these words are English in origin, and therefore, that you can just literally make up things about their origins (Adam = Atom was particularly hilarious and flat out stupid, like, this is seriously cringe-worthy), shows that you really have NO IDEA what you are talking about, at all.
Okay, so you know how to go on to wikipedia and look at random things and then “connect” them to entirely unrelated concepts and ideas just because the words look or sound similar?
I mean, you complain about me making fun of you guys and dismissing your views as garbage and treating you like jokes, but… when your whole explanation sounds like the badly-written dialogue of some one-dimensional teenage stoner from a 90s movie… how do you expect to be taken seriously?
I know you think you have reached some sort of “higher consciousness” and that everyone else is stuck in the 3D universe-Matrix-simulation and only you and those like you are capable of seeing how everyone else is mind controlled and only you are free and only you know truth (because you can read wikipedia, apparently, haha), but… you’re not. All you proved to me was that you all are even more lost and delusional than I previously thought.
I think, maybe, I made a mistake in even engaging you at all. Perhaps I should be even more insulting and dismissive so that you just stop talking and go away. This is not a space for your fantasies, whatever you insist on calling them (your 5D somehow NON-delusional world view, haha).
Your arguments, if they can even be called that, are facile and basically non-existent. It’s shameless ignorance parading as insight and understanding.
I did read some of your comments to some friends of mine and we all had a good laugh. Particularly at your made-up etymology. Like, you couldn’t even be bothered to look up the origins of the words you claim to be REVEALING hidden truths to. As you are fond of saying, “consider this”, well, consider this: making things up and pretending it’s “knowledge” is not actually convincing to people who have some cognitive faculties left. Sorry. Try the coma ward, I’m sure you’ll find minds more amenable to your… “insights.”
You people are wild. Conspiracy theorists really know the LEAST about any given subject, but think they know the MOST about everything.
I can only imagine that if a conspiracy theorist ever set out to learn how to play an instrument, they would begin by dismissing all musicians as part of some conspiracy and that they were only brainwashed and didn’t know anything about music, and that only the conspiracy theorist knew what music was or how to play an instrument even though they don’t know how and never tried but they watched a 30 minute youtube video (or found a wikipedia entry!) written by a carpenter who claims to have “debunked” music and instruments. And so, after whole hours of “research” on youtube and wikipedia, and without any ability to actually play an instrument, the conspiracy theorist is now confident that they know more about music and playing an instrument than the people who have studied and dedicated their lives (and many thousands of hours!) to practice and study.
It’s really astounding.
A philosophy (which is a VERY generous term for what you and others like you describe and adhere to) that begins with the assumption that it has nothing to learn from others is doomed to self-destruct in its own echo chamber of ignorance and stupidity. And before you say that I am dismissing your views and so not taking my own advice, I have to say, there is a bar, there is a standard that knowledge forms have to adhere to, that research requires.
That means that entire disciplines like epidemiology, economics, climatology, sciences, social sciences, humanities, history, etc., all these disciplines, regardless of flaws, are at a much higher standard than you, making up the origins of words that you don’t know.
Any idiot can sit on a computer and be like, “well, consider this, the word ‘conspiracy’ is made up of ‘cons’ which comes from ‘constipated’ and ‘piracy’ which comes from pirates, so OBVIOUSLY conspiracies are made up by thieves who are full of shit.”
See? Anyone can do it. It requires exactly no skill and little to no effort. And it especially requires ZERO ACTUAL knowledge.
So go on and blah blah rant and rave about your 5D world, but, perhaps just leave me out of it, leave my website out of it, and go live in that 5D world, because this one is clearly far too complicated for you to grasp in even a very basic sense.
If you want to be taken seriously, it requires doing serious work and research. If you don’t like being treated like a joke, stop saying such laughable and childish things.
I am being rude and dismissive because I want to make it clear that your views are not legitimate, not respectable, and not to be taken seriously. They are trite nonsense, essentially incomprehensible garbage parading as psycho-babble philosophy for teenage stoners who don’t even know where to write their name on a test paper, let alone how to answer any real questions.
You don’t want to be treated as a joke, then don’t act like one.
Good luck in your delusions. Please don’t bother coming back here, this is not a forum for irrelevant made-up nonsense. You want to literally make up the origins of words, go start your own joke site, but I actually know what etymology is, so that kind of ignorance and stupidity does not get a free pass here.
Goodbye.
Clearly Andrew did not read that the author of the previous comment clearly stated he explained his “etymology” was not based on science, and is based on subliminal interpretation of the words.
Either Andrew was not paying attention to what was written and it went over his head, or Andrew, in his judgment, and his pride, and his ego really invalidates at least some of the valid points and connections in the previous post.
The whole idea behind subliminal messaging is that it SUGGESTS something.
And Andrew’s interpretation of the word, “conspiracy” is correct, in the irrational, subliminal sense.
It is about conning people via piracy and cheat – which double-crossing, a joke. That is what a conspiracy though – cheating and deception when considered from a “negative” perspective.
Civilization is the consequence of conspiracy, that much is true and that much Andrew cannot just deny despite his intellectual sophistication and pride.
The entire 3D experience is a joke – that was what the previous post was saying all along.
So at least you understood that part, albeit in contempt.
The whole post explained nothing, it elucidated nothing. You saying that “subliminal interpretation” has any relevance, whatsoever, is a joke. The fact that you took my joke about the word “conspiracy” seriously is more evidence of the fact. I literally just made that up. It’s based on nothing, has no relevance to the world, or anything real. I sat there and thought to myself, “what sounds really really stupid and obviously stupid?” And you’re here, like, “you are correct, in the subliminal, irrational sense.”
Oh yes, it’s my “pride” and “intellectual sophistication” (i.e., having any actual standards for sources), it makes me blind to all this “knowledge” and “enlightenment” you all are sharing. Oh, subliminal word-smithing, how astute and irrelevant. Wow. I’m so impressed with your ability to take a word and turn it into… nothing.
“The whole idea behind subliminal messaging is that is SUGGESTS something.”
Okay. The whole idea behind words is that they SAY something, they mean something, they convey something. It’s not mere suggestion, like the concept of your ability to think critically, it’s there, written, a word, with its own history, origins, evolution, and applications. You play a child-like game making up the “suggestions” of the sounds of words (in English, of course, because this game wouldn’t work the same in every other language, when the sound of words change, then I assume you would have to change your made up “sounds like” suggestions then, but you’re clearly good at making up random crap so I’m sure you’ll do just fine).
The more I read these arguments from you conspiracy theorists the more I am convinced you are just lost, delusional cult members. There is a quote I often return to, by Isaac Asimov, explaining why (specific to American culture but it can certainly be expanded today) anti-intellectual views are so prevalent:
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’” – Asimov
That’s it, though. You all think that because you are so ignorant and have no real, applicable knowledge or information, but because you spent 20-45 minutes on wikipedia, or youtube, or some stupid blog that you’re “ignorance” (parading as “information”) is suddenly as respectable and relevant as someone like a scientist who has spent years and their lifetime studying and practicing in their field.
Just imagine this: someone spends 6 to 8 years or more studying, say, epidemiology, or virology. This includes working in a laboratory, looking through microscopes, conducting experiments (you know, on things that are real, they exist, they are there, real, you understand? you look through a microscope and see something in it, it’s there). You graduate school, you go into the field, continue doing research, in labs but also going out into the world, studying the areas and conditions where viruses emerge and spread, you continue with your career in the field. Years go by.
And then a pandemic hits. And suddenly, there are all these people who have never studied this subject in their lives, never read a book about it, never took a class on it, never went to school to study it, never worked in a lab, in the field, looked into a microscope to study and experiment with it, who have no valid experience, insight, knowledge, or information whatsosever. But someone from this group of people just one day wakes up from a nap and says, “epidemiology sounds like epi-pen, demons and biology, so I think the virus is a conspiracy to inject us with Satanic spirits to change us into monsters.”
Okay, so, we are now supposed to ignore the person who did all the years of research and who has actual real-world experience and knowledge and instead take seriously the infantile oraculations of someone who literally makes up reality based upon how words “sound”???
You’re right, I DO have nothing but utter contempt for these views, for your views, to be precise. Before, I also had pity, because these views are so pathetic and childish and I was really embarrassed for how stupid you all make yourselves sound. But now, I can see that there is no shame, no acceptance of being anything but right (because blind faith in empty beliefs is always the right way to go about thinking!), no connection to reality, open acknowledgement that your beliefs are not based on research, rationality, fact, or ANYTHING, but then expecting others to take you and your beliefs seriously?
ARE YOU FOR REAL?
I’ve read a LOT of stupid shit in my day, I’ve even believed a lot of stupid shit from time to time (that’s part of the process of learning and growing and LEARNING, did I mention learning?)… but these views that you people subject my comment section to as… REALLY stupid. Like… I feel like someone is gonna be like, “oh I was just joking, fucking with you, I just made up all those comments as a joke, I actually do have a functioning brain.”
But sadly no… you all seem so lost to reality, so lost to anything to grasp onto in the world. It’s quite sad, to be honest. And you project all these insecurities onto me simply because I call out your stupid garbage false belief systems for what they are: stupid garbage. And so you pretend that because I rely upon actual sources for actual information in the process of doing actual research, that I have myself succumbed to a religious fervour and dedication to these institutions of information, that I, like you, have become incapable of grounded criticism or self-reflection.
I actually have a great deal to criticize in every institution, and often especially those institutions that we rely upon for information. I understand that truth is ever-elusive and a constant challenge and process of searching and seeking to expand our understanding. But you all do not seem to understand that, let alone much of anything else.
You simply dismiss and reject all sources that do not validate your bizarre delusions, and then you claim that everyone else is delusional and trapped in some hypnotic trance state of the 3D universe whatever the fuck… and you are gifted with these hidden truths because you, and you alone have the talent of “making shit up about the sound of words” and calling it interpretation of subliminal suggestion.
When I was about 6 or 7, my older and sister and I made up a language that only she and I spoke and could write. The language was literally gibberish, and the written form was literally scribbles on a page. But we both would tell everyone else how we could understand each other and could read the scribbles. No one really believed us, though, even we didn’t believe us, we just WANTED to believe it. And you know why?
Because we were little kids, playing a game. That’s all you guys are. You’re just little children, talking gibberish, writing down squiggles and scribbles, and calling it a language. I’m sorry, but … it’s not.
And if you’re not a 6 or 7-year-old child, perhaps you should consider GROWING UP a little.
If you put as much effort into opening and reading a book, or signing up for an online class, that you do into just making up gibberish and writing down your squiggles, then I do have faith you can mature and get past this. I have hope, at least. The fact that you wrote sentences with words makes me hopeful that you could at least learn to write coherent sentences with meaningful words sometime in the future, once you have put some time and effort into this whole amazing growth process called “learning” (which begins with the understanding that, “I do not know everything”).
It’s okay that you don’t know anything useful or meaningful about any subjects of importance or relevance to the world. But you still can. You still can learn. We all can learn.
But you gotta stop pretending that your made-up language and gibberish is anywhere near as meaningful as actual knowledge and information. It really isn’t, and it is so upsetting, disheartening and shocking that you people think it is, that you even think it is remotely existing in the same universe as actual information and knowledge. And that you think it has anything to do with a concept of ‘truth; which you have so clearly disregarded ages ago, is equally unsettling.
Put down the crazy, stop the gibberish talk, halt the scribbles, and go learn something for once. Please. For your own sake, for the sake of anyone who knows you, just go read a book written by someone who actually knows what they’re talking about. It’s so important that you stop this nonsense.
It’s for children playing make-believe, it’s time to grow up.
It is called DECODING subliminal messages in the language.
One can know both about the origins of the words in the etymological sense and still appreciate the way the words sound.
Ask yourself, why does the words, “write, right, and rite” all sound alike? What are they trying to suggest and imply?
Why does whole and hole sound alike? And subliminals are not restricted to English, it is applicable in every language, with a little bit of creative awareness, one can decipher and decode all of them to varying degrees of meaningfulness.
Very well, if Andrew wants to play the etymology ball game, then here I go:
“research (n.)
1570s, “act of searching closely,” from French recerche (1530s, Modern French recherche), back-formation from Old French recercher (see research (v.)). Meaning “scientific inquiry” is first attested 1630s. Phrase research and development is recorded from 1923.
research (v.)
1590s, from French recercher, from Old French recercher “seek out, search closely,” from re-, intensive prefix (see re-), + cercher “to seek for,” from Latin circare “go about, wander, traverse,” in Late Latin “to wander hither and thither,” from circus “circle” (see circus). Related: Researched; researching.”
origin (n.)
c. 1400, “ancestry, race,” from Latin originem (nominative origo) “a rise, commencement, beginning, source; descent, lineage, birth,” from stem of oriri “arise, rise, get up; appear above the horizon, become visible; be born, be descended, receive life;” figuratively “come forth, take origin, proceed, start” (of rivers, rumors, etc.), from PIE *heri- “to rise” (source also of Hittite arai- “to arise, lift, raise,” Sanskrit iyarti “to set in motion, move,” Armenian y-arnem “to rise”). Meaning “beginning of existence” is from 1560s; sense of “that from which something derives its being or nature” is from c. 1600.
reason (n.)
c. 1200, “intellectual faculty that adopts actions to ends,” also “statement in an argument, statement of explanation or justification,” from Anglo-French resoun, Old French raison “course; matter; subject; language, speech; thought, opinion,” from Latin rationem (nominative ratio) “reckoning, understanding, motive, cause,” from ratus, past participle of reri “to reckon, think,” from PIE root *re- “to reason, count.”
Reason is never a root, neither of act nor desire.
[Robinson Jeffers, “Meditation on Saviors”]
Meaning “sanity; degree of intelligence that distinguishes men from brutes” is recorded from late 13c. Sense of “grounds for action, motive, cause of an event” is from c. 1300. Middle English sense of “meaning, signification” (early 14c.) is in the phrase rhyme or reason. Phrase it stands to reason is from 1630s. Age of Reason “the Enlightenment” is first recorded 1794, as the title of Tom Paine’s book.
reason (v.)
early 14c., resunmen, “to question (someone),” also “to challenge,” from Old French raisoner “speak, discuss; argue; address; speak to,” from Late Latin rationare “to discourse,” from ratio “reckoning, understanding, motive, cause,” from ratus, past participle of reri “to reckon, think,” from PIE root *re- “to reason, count.” Intransitive sense of “to think in a logical manner” is from 1590s; transitive sense of “employ reasoning (with someone)” is from 1847. Related: Reasoned; reasoning.
From online Etymology Dictionary.
English vowels, a,e,i,o,u are all interchangeable without change of meaning. Raison and Reason – equivalent as proven by epistemological, “logic.” I am literally conceding to Andrew at this point.
Even the etymological definitions strongly suggest “searching” for something, in, the word, “research.” The suffix, “re” can be replaced with “ra” which Ra, the Egyptian sun-god. Sun or solar symbolism always a circle as outlined even in the verbal definition of the word, “research.”
Even the original etymology of the word, “reason” further suggests a reckoning, a judgment of some kind from on high. Again, the ‘re’ suffix, which, when replaced with ‘ra’ implies the same notion as the subliminal “sound” interpretation of Ray-Sun or the rays of the sun, the basis for the “logical” and “rational” discourse of intellectualism, science, philosophy and every intellectual enterprise.
It was the Egyptian god named THOTH who created every intellectual activity. Thoth conjured up the disciplines of mathematics, the sciences, religion, botany and every intellectual activity known to humanity. Ever wonder how civilization suddenly popped up out of virtually “nowhere” in the Fertile Crescent? This is a huge anomaly in history that the historical records are nearly silent or inadequate to explain what happened, and why the sudden surge in intellectual activity from ancient Babylon to Egypt and then to Europe.
Now, let us also look at the word, “origin.” One interesting origin of Origin is Oriri, as if suggesting, by filling in the blanks, the constellation, “ORION.” The Egyptian Great Pyramids of Giza are strongly correlated with the Orion Constellation. This is not a made-up nonsense. I am literally not capable of making up such a strong assertion. Just compare the alignments and arrangements of the Great Pyramids of Giza with the Orion’s Belt Constellations. Oriri can also be mistakenly spelled as Osiris [just by subconscious suggestion], another Egyptian god, the god of the Dead. Origin also relates to the notion of rising, the horizon, birth, raising, and “derived from its nature” in the later 1600s.
Raising, rising, horizon, these words are all related to the Rays of the Sun God, Ra. Horus, another Sun God, the son of Isis and Osiris was born from the remains of Osiris after being betrayed by Set, like the Setting Sun. Horizon is derived from the Rising Son Horus. English evolved certainly from Latin, French and the Romance languages. That much, there is no historical debate about that origin. What subliminal decoding seeks to find is not to have an argument about the academic histories of the words, since there is no point – it is agreed upon that there is no argument about it. Rather, it is about finding common patterns and hidden messages in words and phrases alike. It sounds insane and mad, since it is outside of the common mindset of the intellectual mind to even to begin to consider these connections. Hence, the strong condemnation, and over-protectiveness of the intellectual “rational” of the world.
Consider the word, “current.” Currents are related to the following ‘real-life’ concepts: Monetary currency, water currents, air currents, solar currents, or solar winds, the corona of the sun, and the the currents of blood through the human body, and finally the electric currents flowing in the world’s electrical power grid system. Weirdly, high power line losses are called, “coronal” losses. Coronavirus and…Corona, Mexican Beer? Very odd, is it not?
This is just by simple “concept association” – like mind storming and brain mapping – I am sure Andrew may accept this line of inquiry as not “totally mad.” Yet, consider what the above paragraph implies about the notion of currency, and its relationship to solar corona, and electrical corona. All same names for different seemingly unrelated activities, yet sharing a common word. Hell, even Mandarin has a similar word plays and word games, so the implications are very far-reaching – like in Mandarin, the words for Wine and Nine are homonyms of one another. Also, “Xi” or Four in Mandarin is often related to the word, “Death” in Mandarin, hence there are even cultural taboos against such numbers.
Is it not rather odd that the same system of homonyms are transferrable to other languages as well? If language does not define “3D reality” after one is born, then what does? These are important questions which require answers, since it relates to the very legitimacy of the 3D experience.
Thoughts have sound. Sound vibrates. Everything at the molecular level, atomic level, vibrates. Vibration is energy. Energy glows. Glowing is light. Hence, thoughts are the origin of the 3D light show. This much can be proven by pure scientific method and validation of these concepts – can you hear your thoughts? Then that is the proof you need, it is in oneself. See now, how even the scientific method can be used to prove the utter lunacy and madness of the 3D world itself? It is bizarre by design – not by me, but by the very structure of the suggestions which I find, and decode.
I am just the messenger – finding the subliminal messages in words and events. If you want to be mad at anything, be mad at how crazy this sounds. I know it is crazy, and yet, it is fun to decode it. This 3D script is a bad joke, that is all it is. That is what all of this demonstrate and prove.
This decoding process is inseparable from our experience of the 3D world. We are not an abstraction of our language system, our language system defines the margins of “reality” by suggestion and by greater and greater learning in the 3D world to make the 3D world appear more real. So, what is real? Is the 3D experience legitimate or not?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_correlation_theory#/media/File:Orion_-_pyramids.jpg
Just when I think I’ve read the stupidest, most absurd comment on my blog, another one of you comes out of the collective cringe-worthy internet basement you all reside in to write something even more useless and stupid.
Okay, you can copy and paste from dictionary.com. Wow, I am so impressed. And then all of a sudden, right back to Egyptian Sun Gods, because why not? It’s magic! And I love your jump. “if you look at ‘re’ in ‘research’ and then change it to ‘ra’ it’s now the Egyptian Sun God Ra.”
Okay, buddy. And if you take the word “onion” but you actually take out the first “n” and add an “r” then it spells orion which is a constellation but also a Greek myth, which means that this is all a conspiracy and lizard alien child molesters control everything including the sounds of words”… and if you’re sitting there, nodding, thinking, “wow, that’s a great point,” then you are as dumb as you sound. (Edit: I didn’t read your entire post because it was so stupid it started to hurt, but when I saw the link to wikipedia about orion I laughed and went up to see that you ACTUALLY used Orion as one of your really dumb examples, and that’s so funny because I literally sat in my chair and thought to myself, “what is a good word that can be easily changed to something of greek myth but it’s so simple that even the dumbest idiot can come up with it,” and YOU DID! that’s so funny. See, I see that as ironic, but you would probably read into it something about a conspiracy and Greek or Egyptian Gods I bet)
It’s perfect. Even in my attempt to prove how completely stupid and meaningless and made up your whole exercise is, you already beat me to it. Perfect. Oh, and I love the bit about how, “This is not a made-up nonsense. I am literally not capable of making up such a strong assertion.” Apparently you are capable of making up any stupid bullshit and calling it “subliminal messaging”
All I proved was that any stupid fool who knows absolutely nothing can create random, non-existent connections about words that have nothing to do with them, whatsoever.
And even if these word origin stories were correct (which they aren’t, but let’s pretend, since you’re all playing make-believe anyway), so what? What did you prove? You started one paragraph rambling about the word “current” and then ended with “coronavirus and mexican beer? very odd, is it not?”
No, no, your demented ramblings are not informative. What’s odd, in fact, is that you seemingly don’t forget to breathe while you’re sleeping, because I’m sure it takes all your mental agility to remember how to do that during your waking hours.
“It’s called decoding subliminal messages in the language”, he says. No, sorry dear, it’s not: it’s called demented ramblings that are pure childish imagination. It’s pathetic.
I thought the first idiot to bring this up was just making it up on the spot, but it seems like there is a whole sub-culture of you fools who think this is actually a thing. But I’m sorry, it’s not. You are wasting your life. What a ridiculous thing to believe and do. It’s sad and pathetic. Please grow up. It’s time to learn how to actually think like someone who is fully developed, and not still in embryonic form.
You guys are funny, though, man. DUMB, but funny.
“If you take this word, and then change the spelling randomly, then it almost sounds like some other word, and then that is similar to another word that comes from Ancient Egypt, and so, by the power of bullshit and stupidity, you can see that I am right, and also enlightened! and also everything is a conspiracy.”
This is a level of stupid I didn’t think was actually possible. You people are the reason why there are “do not eat” labels on laundry detergent.
You know what would be hilarious, if instead of making up how you think language works, if you studied linguistics or something, and learned from people who actually know about language and what it is. It’s actually useful to study a thing instead of making it up.
Seriously though, I bet if you tried to learn how to play an instrument you’d begin by decrying musicians for being brainwashed and not really knowing how to read or play music, and then you’d claim that instruments don’t exist, you’d make up the meaning of the notes on the page, but you would never actually play an instrument, of course, because you don’t know how. Because you know nothing.
You all think you know more about science and epidemiology than scientists or epidemiologists. Okay, great. Go to a laboratory, and show us what you got. If you actually know what you’re talking about, you should be able to do science, to conduct experiments, certainly, since you all are sooooo intelligent because you imagine you are.
I am just picturing a “conversation” you might have with a linguist (a person who actually knows things about the subject of language), and it’s so satisfying to imagine the reaction to your trivial made-up nonsense that I’m sure you learned from some cult-group message board you all are mindless members of.
Again, i can’t imagine any single one of you learning how to play an instrument, or even cook a meal. I presume all chefs are brainwashed and don’t know how to cook, all recipes are imagined and created by people, therefore they are not real; all food begins as something else, so it too is an illusion, and it turns out that we don’t even need food, it’s all a conspiracy to get our money and fatten us up so our alien overlord lizard masters can eat us.” And then you starve to death because you’re an idiot.
I honestly hope you are the same person attempting to create multiple personalities who all agree that “subliminal decoding” is something beyond the pure gibberish child-like mentally comatose nonsense it is, but I’m somewhat concerned that you are, in fact, a flock of fools who all believe this is a thing.
So, let me use language clearly and directly, which you can then “subliminally” interpret (on your own time, and perhaps scribble onto a pad of paper instead of setting free your demented rants on my comments forum), but let me say this, so that it is unequivocal, clear, pristine and precise, so that there is no ambiguity or insincerity or uncertainty: Your views are laughable and stupid. Very stupid. You cannot make things up and call it facts. Nothing you say has any validity. Your attempt to justify these stupid views is both humiliating and hilarious, but also deeply upsetting (for the state of humankind). You are not enlightened; in fact, ‘dim’ is a vast over-estimation of your mental faculties.
This is so stupid. These views, they are… meaningless, empty, useless, and WRONG.
You are wrong. You have no idea what you’re talking about. At all, apparently. I’m amazed that you even formed sentences.
Be gone, this trite garbage is not welcome here any longer. Every word of your I read feels like head trauma for the stupid it inflicts upon the reader.
I am sorry for being so rude and mean, but these views do not deserve respect, or to be treated as if they have any place in a discussion about anything relevant. These comments began because someone put forward a bunch of unfounded and incorrect conspiracy theories based upon a warped view of the world that doesn’t exist in reality, and they had a problem with me not believing in their same delusions about the coronavirus or the lockdowns. And now, many months and many dozens of conspiracy whacko comments later, here you are, talking about how the word “research” is really subliminal messaging for the Egyptian Sun God Ra.
You realize how pathetic and stupid this all is, right?
I maintain an open forum where I allow literally any idiot to post any stupid nonsense they want and call it an “opinion”, pretending it’s as valid as someone else’s actual knowledge, but you and the others on this thread may have convinced me that it is time to start denying these comments altogether. They lower the bar so much, and turn what could be an intelligent conversation into “that word sounds like another word if you change how the word is spelled”… It’s so upsetting, that this is how low the conversation has gotten, that these demented arguments pass for actual views in your warped little world in your head.
I am sure you read every label, every charge of stupidity and ignorance as a badge of honour, as further vindication that you and your like-minded cohorts with child-like minds are the only ones who can “see” and “hear” the secret messages of the universe and the others like me are just lost cogs in the great wheel of conspiratorial civilization and mind-altering subliminal messages that you have risen above because you have the supreme enlightened talent and insight of making up words after you change how they’re spelled and sound.
As I said before, I also made up a language when I was a child, but even my underdeveloped child brain knew that it was ultimately make believe. I don’t think you’re aware that what you’re doing is make believe, but it is.
Are you a child?
Grow up.
And in the meantime, get lost from here.
With all sincerity, fuck off with your stupid nonsense and don’t come back until you put on your big boy pants and escape your cult of crazed stupidity. I’ve honestly known pet gerbils with more sense.
I have nothing for you. Don’t bother coming back. Don’t bother writing another comment, under whatever made up name you want.
Just go LEARN something. Please. All you’re doing here is playing make believe with words, and that’s not what this forum is for. It’s over, you’ve ruined open discussion with spamming your stupidity.
Go read a book. Don’t come back.
Fine Andrew, let us imagine that everything mentioned by previous commenters are really stupid.
I am giving you a challenge:
After this comment is written, I challenge you write a real explanation of the anomalies I am about to describe to you, assuming one is really convinced that politics is not religion. No swear words, no labels, no put-downs, no averting the question, and no strawmans, red-herrings, avoiding the question, or failure to address each point respectfully and honestly, and no “Since I don’t know how to answer this question, I’ll just call the person stupid, dumb and child-like. I’ll also swear at him and hopefully this will discredit his statements or observations.” None of that.
I shall use Canadian and American politics and political terms as an example.
I have studied political science and I am almost done with my degree, so these anomalies and strange terms in political science are not just made up out thin-air. They are made up by other people and we are told to repeat them ad nauseum.
First: Current members of a political office are always called INCUMBENT. As in, cum. This is just suggestion, nothing more. It is neither good nor bad. Curious is it not?
Secondly: Ministers govern political offices, like church ‘ministers’ govern their parishes and curates. Why this similarity?
Thirdly: Government houses and offices are often designed like temples, especially the higher up the office one goes. The Canadian Parliament is designed like Westminster Cathedral and the Lincoln Cathedral. Washington, D.C.’s National Mall looks like a temple to imaginary gods. The street layout in D.C., (this applies to all cities, D.C. is just the most blatant) – there are pentagrams and a huge owl at Capitol Hill [street view]. Also, there is a Freemason Temple 33 blocks from the White House. Virtually all of the Founding Fathers of the USA, and Canada were Freemasons. Why?
Fourthly: In US politics, the president always says, “God Bless America.” Why? It further demonstrates that politics is religion in a different guise, does it not?
Explain these anomalies with a straight face and respecting the above conditions. If you cannot do that, and you break any one of those conditions as listed above then you don’t know what you are talking about.
Thanks with respect.
Ha, okay, at first I was like, “Oh, great, is someone going to come forward with an actual argument?”
And then no, you just repeated the same gibberish exercise as the other idiots. This isn’t a real thing.
I am not adhering to your “conditions” for how I am supposed to react to extremely stupid comments. Just saying random crap about words based upon how they sound doesn’t mean ANYTHING.
I reserve respect for that which has earned it. I do not treat these warped, sad, childish little views with respect, because they do not deserve it. You understand?
For your first comment on “incumbent.” Your comment is like, exceptionally dumb. No, that’s not what the word means. Sorry. You’re wrong (you should be used to that by now). Next.
Second. You’re drawing random parallels to try to prove a point, it seems. Church ministers and politicians govern their flocks. Okay. And? So what? Again, completely useless and meaningless.
And the third fun little bit of nonsense. Okay, so government offices resemble Roman and other past architecture and some people were freemasons. Okay… and? What does this prove exactly, apart from the fact that architecture takes its cues from past design (I’m sure the architectural world would be SHOCKED to learn of such a thing!), and that freemasons exist (which, duh, so what?).
You say “explain these anomalies,” but these are not anomalies, these are not even coincidences. You are just making shit up and thinking that it makes you sound smart, when in fact you sound really dumb.
Now I assume you are the same person who has been spamming all this crap and I told you before and I’ll say it again now: you will no longer have comments approved so long as you attempt to try to beat this dead horse.
If you want to engage on actual topics or have real discussions in the future, that’s fine, but for now, I will be deleting your comments on this gibberish “fun with words for idiots” game.
Respect is earned. You have earned insult, because your stupid ideas are incredibly insulting to be subjected to (and to be expected to take them seriously! ha)
I honestly share many of the things you have said with friends and on social media and everyone has a good laugh at how idiotic everything you say is, so thanks for that.
And you claim I don’t know what I’m talking about because I can’t take you (the giant joke) seriously. That’s funny. But whatever you need to tell yourself, dear. Clearly you are lost in a world of self delusion, so stay there, but stop trying to drag me or anyone else down to your low… low… LOW level.
You’re welcome, without respect.
Bye. Your comments will be rejected.
Prove to everyone then that your complexity and your intellectualism has a solid foundation. What is the source of – the real source, all the way since the beginning of space-time of your inspiration and your intellect? Not talking about news paper articles, or some history of some so-and-so institution. I am talking about beginning-of-the-universe origin here. Go find what that foundation is and if it has any basis in reality whatsoever.
You want me to … prove … where the beginning of the universe happened? What?
You people are bafflingly daft and moronic.
Your comments will also be rejected in the future.
Due to the extreme level of stupidity being spammed on my comments section, I will now have to be selective in what I permit to be posted.
So here’s a rule for the future if you want to post a comment: if what you are saying sounds like really bad dialogue for a teenage stoner in a 90s movie, like, if it sounds like what YOU wrote, or the word game gibberish that the one spammer kept at, I will be rejecting your comments.
You know how there are height restrictions for some rides? Well, now, unfortunately due to you all, there are going to have to be cognitive capacity restrictions for posting comments, as in, you have to have some capacity for thought. The infantile views being spammed here do not have a place in meaningful discussion, debate or analysis, let alone understanding. You can play all the “this word sounds like this word” games you want, and constantly make up connections to ancient egypt which makes you feel like you can just skip over 5 thousand years of human history and say, “I know everything”, but you don’t, and it’s laughable, and I have no more patience for allowing space for this kind of stupidity, let alone engaging with it.
Always back to that Isaac Asimov quote about American anti-intellectualism where people think that “democracy means my ignorance is as good as your knowledge.”
You’re all ignorant.
GROW UP, children.
Don’t comment or come back.
So Andrew wants his own echo chamber? Just like cultists do and brainwashed victims of Mormons?
Hilarious!
Talk about “learning.” Learning means also willing to challenge the very foundations of the “learning experience.”
No, I don’t want an echo chamber, and I don’t exist in one, either. I spend most of my time reading material and sources that I don’t agree with on philosophical or ideological grounds, and am constantly challenging my own beliefs and ideas and understandings.
I am all for encouraging a dismantling of echo chambers and widening of ideas and perspectives.
BUT, there has to be *some* standards. There has to be some bar (in this case, the bar is very very low).
I am not creating or trying to create an echo chamber, but I am now unfortunately going to have to make an effort to dismantle a chamber of shrieking, hysterical nonsense.
Like, if someone wanted to start a cooking club where everyone gets together in a group and shares recipes and learns to cook new things together or individually, you want a wide variety of recipes, different people with different experience and expertise, people you can learn from, debate with, exchange and interact with.
You don’t invite someone who “doesn’t believe in food,” and thinks that needing to eat is a a plot to make us spend money. You know why you don’t invite that person? Because that’s so ridiculous. It would be comical if it wasn’t so sad. But I fear that many of you are just in need of mental health support.
You have gotten lost in an internet world of your own creation, a shared delusion that exists only digitally and in your minds, and leaves you mentally incapable of handling the real world.
I am sorry for you.
But this is not the forum or place for you. Goodbye.
So subliminal perspectives, however insane they sound (and I admit they do sound crazy) have no validity cause Andrew, the high priest of intellectual indoctrination says so? Very religious my man. Very religious and dogmatic.
No, they have no place here because this is a forum for political, economic, social and historical discussion, not fantasy fan fiction. Go make your own website where you can talk about all the magical and mystical things you want, this is not the place for that.
You can complain I’m being “religious” (once again demonstrating that you all have no idea what you’re talking about), because I actually have decided to impose a bare minimum standard which most of these comments do not meet.
I would do the same thing to people coming here talking about unicorns and dragons and fairies. Sorry, but if that’s what you choose to believe in, fine, but this is neither the place nor the subject matter for discussion of fantasy world stuff that you think is real and should be taken seriously for some reason.
Sorry, but it doesn’t work that way. And the audacity to set out “guidelines” and requirements for me to answer YOUR questions (even though they aren’t questions, they’re just absurd statements and magical claims followed by something like, “weird, no? how do you explain that, huh?”). Last I checked, this is MY website you don’t get to tell me what or how to respond to quackery posted on MY website, y’hear?
You also don’t get to tell me what language I am to use, especially if you spend your time making up random bullshit about language. Haha. Sorry, nope.
The standard has been set, and you do NOT meet it.
Think about that, in over a decade of writing, I have never imposed any standards or restrictions on comments on my writing, but YOU and your bots have taken the level of discussion so low, and to such an empty, meaningless place, that I have now had to impose some restrictions.
So thanks for that. Such a disappointment.
Odd how Andrew throws a temper tantrum when his views are challenged at the core and the fundamental atomic level.
Andrew, you got to admit, you’re behaving exactly like the child that you accused the other commentators of being.
No respect for people who disagree with your methods, and no civility and only what appears to be later on an unjustifiable rage thrown at authors who look at the world weirdly, strangely and oddly
But hey, who am I to judge?
I am just passing by and looking at this from a stranger’s perspective who knows nothing about what is being talked about.
Lol @ my views being “challenged at the core and the fundamental atomic level.” Like… what? So people making up gibberish and calling it “subliminal decoding” is an intellectual challenge? I would grant you, it is certainly intellectually challenged, but… the only thing it proves is that any idiot can make up anything they want and pretend it’s real.
As for my childish tantrums in response, I’ll concede that. But at the start of these conspiracy theory absurdities in the comments, I attempted to use logic and rational arguments. Obviously that gets nowhere with conspiracy theorists who openly decry logic, reason, sources, research, facts, information, and instead opt for magical thinking, belief-based systems only, and making things up as they go.
I was accused of being “bought” or wanting to be an elite, asked any and all kinds of questions, which I have and had no obligation to respond to, also considering they were not questions but really just accusations.
It’s clear by now that there is no engaging with these people. Their minds operate in a different world, they are lost to reality, and they only want to drag others with them into the abyss of irrelevance and nonsense.
You know, I’ve had friends who got really into new age spirituality and really went down the rabbit hole and kind of disappeared into their own worlds. It is strange, yes, and I don’t share the beliefs, but they also don’t push their beliefs on me, or expect me to accept them, or expect that the world and policy should revolve around them. Even though their spiritual belief systems may be obscure and something I don’t put any personal credence into, I can respect that they hold them as their spiritual beliefs and can speak to them in a respectful tone, even about those beliefs.
But these people also don’t think that everyone should be listening to them talking about spirit elves and angels that you can’t see instead of taking effective policy responses to a pandemic. These spiritual beliefs can be met with respect because they are an individual’s spiritual journey, their effects on society are rather benign, they do not demand political legitimacy, and they do not preach a disdain for truth or information, they largely confine their energies to the spiritual realm. So, a person may believe in angels or pixies and then also wear a mask during a pandemic, or support BLM, or support democracy, etc.
The conspiracy theorists expect to be taken seriously as they espouse what are ultimately just baseless beliefs that would otherwise be confined to spiritual new age philosophy, but which expect and demand political legitimacy, to be taken as serious discourse, to be taken into account in the formation of policy, to be taken as truth in contrast to actual facts and information. It’s damaging and dangerous to society. If someone wants to go off the deep end in spiritual beliefs, that’s fine, all the best to them; but if someone expects their baseless beliefs to be taken as fact without any evidence and to be considered as serious in the political, economic and social world, then we have a problem. We enter the territory of conspiracy based parties and societies, which lead to things like Nazis and genocide.
Because if you can get people to believe any stupid bullshit, then you can get them to DO any stupid bullshit. The Nazis believed in conspiracy theories about the Jews being behind everything, and they spread those theories as far and wide as they could and the result was the formation of a modern technologically advanced German state with a major percentage of the population made demented and sociopathic. The theories turned a nation insane and the result was one of the worst genocides in history.
So when I see people pushing baseless nonsense as fact, and expecting to have those ideas treated with the same respect due for ideas and perspectives that are actually based on things (like sources, information, facts, research, history, documentation, etc.), then we enter into a very dangerous place.
I will treat these views the way they teach me to treat them. If you want respect and dignity and politeness from me, then your views actually need to start with a modicum of sanity. Just a little bit. You can’t proselytize gibberish and dangerous nonsense to me like a rabid child and expect to be treated like a respectable adult. If you want to be treated like an adult, to be treated with respect, then act like an adult, then say something respectful.
Because the more I interact with these cult followers the more I have to put them in the same category as the racists and fascists and other sects of ideological garbage who pose an immense threat to democracy and truth.
Next you’ll be demanding that I give a fair and respectful platform for racists and Nazis to express their illegitimate views and baseless theories, spreading hate and threatening the future for so many.
Nope, sorry. If you preach madness, I’ll treat you accordingly.
So you have a problem with my childish responses and disrespect, well then, take it up with all the childish accusations, theories and nonsense thrown at me.
Respect is earned.
I have said it countless times now, but this is not a forum dedicated to the reality-challenged throngs who want to express their baseless theories and talk gibberish and call it a fact.
You want to make up crap and post it, by all means, go make your own site.
This is mine. And no one gets to tell me how to speak or what the “right way” to respond to inane madness is on my own website. Let alone make demands that I respond to every stupid thing they say, AND treat these absurd ideas with the respect and consideration that they haven’t earned.
I am all for learning new things, I am constantly learning new things, but the only thing I have learned from reading all these comments is that it really doesn’t matter how you respond, or what you say, or how many facts and sources you cite, you people exist in your own world and denounce and denigrate and dismiss all that doesn’t conform to your baseless conspiracy theories.
I could be the most polite, respectful, gracious, accepting, fact-citing and source-providing comment moderator and respondent in the world, taking on each claim with polite and calm logic and reason, but we would end up right where we are, with everyone pointing the finger at me for not believing in the nonsense they espouse. There is no winning, there is no conversation, there is no debate, there is no learning with these people, or with these ideas.
No more than there is any of this in terms of providing a platform to racist and fascist ideas. I would never treat racists or racist ideas with polite respect, or those who espouse them as mature adults capable of empathy or independent thought.
Perhaps many are more patient and forgiving than I of such ‘ideas’, but I am proudly NOT tolerant of such madness, hate and idiocy. There is no place for it. And treating it with respect gives it a sense of legitimacy it does not deserve.
These conspiracy theories do not deserve legitimacy or respect, so I treat them accordingly.
But you are right, I think it is best to just disengage and ignore them altogether from here on. I must often remind myself of a wonderful Mark Twain quote: “Be careful when arguing with fools, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
That is truly the low place this discourse has brought me down to, so I think it is time to end it.
This policy is just censorship by other means.
It will make you lose credibility in the eyes of your critics if questions are not answered, and instead a temper tantrum is thrown at the inquirer.
My critics = baseless conspiracy theory nut jobs?
Yeah, I’m fine with them thinking I have no credibility, they don’t think anyone has credibility, unless of course they espouse the same baseless nonsense as themselves.
And questions answered? Ha! What questions?
Just making up gibberish and adding a question mark at the end does not mean you posed an actual worthwhile question to answer.
And who is censoring you? I have allowed these cultists to spam my comments section for the past 8 months undeterred, have engaged and responded to them, attempted to use logic and reason (which of course they reject, along with facts).
Also, you feel censored? Go start your own website. This is MINE, and I have no obligation to provide you or anyone else with a forum to spread baseless gibberish.
I would decline comments that are racist, that promote fascism or Nazism, as that has no place in a modern society or in respectable discourse.
I reserve the right to decline or delete any comments on my blog I want, and it’s clear that these conspiracy theories are essentially in the same category as racists and fascists as far as “respectability” for their views is concerned.
This is not a forum to spread such nonsense.
But let me get this clear: you think you are “censored” because I am not making MY website a platform for you to spread your nonsense?
Okay, just checking to make sure you think you have a right to say whatever you want on my website without consequences. Cool. Good to know.
I have been more than tolerant of the amount and degree of insanity permitted on the comments section. But there is a line, and there is really only so much bullshit I can take in one sitting.
Go start your own website if you’re feeling so “censored” (poor baby!), I am sure you will get plenty of mindless followers.
Enjoy!
Andrew, your entire premise is that people who play with words and find something odd or mysterious about it are equivalent to fascists, Nazis and racists. Those people are hardly the most dangerous, and to suggest that people who suggesting that something worse than a conspiracy is in the works is not a viable defense. I hardly see word games and word plays as dangerous to democracy and intellectual legitimacy. If anything, word games reveal fascinating aspects of the way that language is used to describe the world, and how humans perceive it.
Are you really suggesting that homophones, homographs, and homonyms have no relation to how we perceive reality? Did you not get confused about the meaning of QED (as it is demonstrated) versus quantum-electro-dynamics when you were searching up its meaning? Could it be likely, however one may hate it, that those word play people have something right, even the remotest 1e-10 % chance?
At this point, you’re throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Also, have you actually verified the claim of Four and Nine in Chinese, Simplified is a homograph? I suggest doing even the barest of research to at least demonstrate to others you are following your philosophy.
No, what I am saying is that the lack of adherence to any concept of logic, rationality, to any sense of sources, facts, or evidence is what puts it in the same category as racists, fascists and Nazis.
The acceptance of conspiracy theory as fact without evidence or reason is what puts it in the same category as these egregious and dangerous ideas.
And like, we all saw what the consequences were just a few weeks ago, when conspiracy theorists stormed the US capitol building wanting to kill politicians because they all believed in varying degrees of baseless conspiracy theories.
So these delusions do have dangerous, real-world consequences, and do pose a threat to democracy.
Someone wants to play meaningless games with words? great, have at it. But go somewhere else to play your games, this website is actually about political, economic and social discussions, not made up word games.
And is it likely these word play people have a point? Even a remote chance of being right? No. No they do not. Because they’re not even making a point, they’re not saying anything, it’s gibberish.
Any idiot can take any word and say, “oh, if you change how it’s spelled, it sounds similar to this other word, which in my mind sort of seems like some other word from back in Ancient Egypt.”
K, cool, but that doesn’t mean anything. There is no point being made, other than proving that any idiot can engage in this meaningless process.
What IS dangerous, is that baseless, irrelevant ideas like this wanting to be taken seriously.
If there was an actual piece of information, perhaps even almost a single fully formed coherent idea, perhaps even a rule or concept formed, then there might be something to look up and investigate.
BUT there wasn’t. Just taking a word like “research” and saying, “if you change re to ra then it’s a reference to the Egyptian Sun God Ra” is not something to be taken seriously.
So, now I will appreciate if you stop spamming my comments section the way you attempted to spam my facebook feed before I blocked you.
Goodbye.
Andrew:
Study psychological warfare, linguistic programming, the art of mind control, MKULTRA, and propaganda before making such a claim that words CANNOT suggest something, however “meaningless” you claim those suggestions may be.
Logic has limits, and these word games demonstrate without a doubt that the logical mind is unable to comprehend them without certain, “intuitive” leaps.
The logical mind is too left-hemisphere oriented. Bridge the gap or at least start using your right-hemisphere imagination and creativity, and one will see some credibility to those word games. They do have real world implications, just not what you may prefer to be logical, rational and reasonable per se.
The other author who quoted the Etymology dictionary also proven the “solar” relationship between the words reason and his suggestion of “ray sun.” if you had actually, ACTUALLY studied some mythology, symbolism, and the more, ‘esoteric’ arts which the Freemasons do in their LODGES, then you may find these suggestions have as much of a REAL WORLD impact on the how ‘reality’ is perceived.
You need to ask yourself, why are so many politicians and world leaders in secret societies, cabals, and magnates, such as the infamous Bohemian Grove where they worship a 30 ft OWL? Why are there allegations of child sacrifice and other dark rituals taking place there? Why do people insist that there is a real pedophile and child ritual sacrifice ring around the world? This is the true impact of the insanity which has been suggested to the body of humanity, via thousands of years of intellectual, religious, and scientific manipulation.
Also, you have yet to prove the reality of this supposed, ‘reality.’ To do so, you will have to look into quantum mechanics, which one of the authors referred to, yet apparently, you never bothered investigating that claim yourself.
Do your due diligence to counter the points of those other authors. If you don’t do it, don’t blame others when people start calling you hypocritical.
Lol, okay. Throw some QANon nonsense in for good measure, eh?
I like how, in your world, the fact that people believe in “allegations” mean that they are true. Interesting.
But ;et’s get one thing straight: this isn’t a blog to discuss mythology and esoteric whatever the crap you want to spend your free time contemplating. Take it somewhere else.
I like how I am repeatedly told to just ignore facts and logic and then, by magic, and then I will “see some credibility to those games.”
Sorry, buddy, but this is the intellectual equivalent of saying, “if you just pretend to speak Italian, then you speak Italian.”
Sorry, but, it’s just not true.
Okay, i am officially finished with this topic. I will not approve ANY MORE COMMENTS that are discussing this mumbo jumbo “make up word meaning” game.
Y’all can go play games in your collective fantasy world. But this is my site, and the purpose of my site is not to serve as a springboard for the unhinged nonsense of the internet’s abyss.
Go make up things somewhere else. Go to Italy and pretend to speak Italian, let’s see how your version of “reality” stands up then.
The only thing I’ve learned from these idiots is that, a) there is no limit to the stupidity people can embrace, and b) there are limits to the stupidity I can tolerate.
Goodnight.
This thread and conversation are officially CLOSED FOR GOOD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spw5nmUrpWA&feature=emb_title&ab_channel=Construuct
This link is PENTAGON briefing video regarding this “coronavirus” and the supposed, ‘vaccine.’
There is a gene called VMAT2, which are prominent in religious FUNDAMENTALISTS.
The video says, in short, that the desire is to use some kind of easily transmitted disease to “cure” the FUNDAMENTAL beliefs of religious folks, who believe in some kind of “god.”
The program is called FUNVAX.
This way, religious fundamentalists will then be altered genetically to be happy and obedient serfs to the desires of the Deep State.
Now, this is from the PENTAGON, one of the key actors in the Deep State matrix.
This was from 2005, however, I state thing as present, since this is what was “conjured” up 15 years ago is now a demonstrative “reality” (with varying degrees of success, and failure)
https://www.seattletimes.com/life/travel/coming-soon-the-vaccine-passport/
Ha! Remember when conspiracy theorists were saying Vaccine Passports were coming, and the people who back the official narrative laughed? Well, now it is going to be a REAL thing.
How long before forced vaccinations will be imposed on everyone with no option to back out? How is this any different than Nazi Germany requiring, “papers please” whenever you want to go anywhere? This is the beginning of fascism, and supposed White Supremacists, Nazis, racists would be the least of your worries.
Just watch, as mandatory masking and vaccination comes into center-stage, the rise of fascism under the guise of [real or fraudulent] ‘coronavirus’ would have served its purpose.
So, how long are we going to pretend that the Hegelian Dialect is not a thing that is applicable to ‘coronavirus?’
I know that conspiracy theorists tend to site Hegel as the only piece of political theory or philosophy they know (that I am sure 99.999% of them have never actually read beyond just making references to ‘Hegelian dialectic’ to justify any and all variety of conspiracy theory). But simple stating and restating, “problem, reaction, solution” is not actually evidence of, well, anything. It’s essentially the same as saying, “crisis is an opportunity.” This is not news; this has been known for ages.
So here are some questions for you theorists:
Do you think it is possible to have a problem in this world that ISN’T automatically purposely created by whatever cabal you imagine to be in charge?
[I remember veering further away from conspiracy theories when every single hurricane or earthquake was blamed on weather and other geological weapons, as if there had never been natural disasters prior to the development of such weapons. Let’s leave aside for a moment the idea that just because a government says it is developing some sort of technology that this means they were successful and have actually used it].
Is it possible for elites to seek to expand their own interests and use crises to their own benefit without having personally and intentionally creating the crisis?
Is it possible for policies to be implemented – whether successful or not – without the intention being to steal away your freedoms and impose a tyranny?
Put differently, is it possible that some things, like specific lockdown policies in particular countries or localities may have overstepped or been misguided, ineffective or unnecessary without having been a plot to take away your freedoms and impose a tyranny? Is it possible that some measures were just incompetent? Is it possible that sometimes, some policies or restrictions didn’t work and others did because everyone is responding in real time and having to improvise and learn as we go, as opposed to being some sort of conspiratorial plot?
I especially ponder this when people say things like, “the lockdowns were a plot” or that “the lockdowns have been discredited.”
I can only wonder: which lockdowns? in which countries? which specific policies did not work? Surely people can’t claim in any serious manner that ALL the lockdowns are the same, because even here in Canada, there is a difference from city to city and province to province. Vancouver’s lockdown policies were different from the rest of BC, which was different from Alberta, which was different from Ontario, which had differences between Toronto and other cities, which was different from Quebec, etc. And of course, while some policies were effective, others were not. So, making claims like, “the lockdowns were a plot” and “were discredited” rings of a dishonest nature: did the person making the claim study each and every lockdown in every country, and within each country, did they study the differences in policies between municipalities, localities and cities; did they study both the policies that worked and didn’t work in each case, did they study the possible motivations for the policies, if economic and political interests trumped health concerns, or vice versa.
In short, there are so many real-world factors and questions, that making such claims doesn’t actually carry any weight. A German lockdown does not look like a lockdown in India, which doesn’t look like a lockdown in Vietnam, which doesn’t look like a lockdown in Australia. I am sure you get my meaning.
This goes to my oft-repeated point of many months about conspiracy theories failing to account for complexity. Vast conspiracy theories make sense only if you ignore all the complexities of reality.
Now more to the point of vaccine passports:
Did you know that for decades there have been a great many countries that you cannot travel to without getting any number of vaccines? I remember over a decade ago traveling to Kenya and Uganda and before I went I needed to get several different vaccinations and retrieve paperwork evidence to confirm that I did indeed get those vaccinations. This paperwork was checked when I arrived in these countries. That was it, though. There were no attacks upon my freedom, it was, in fact, for my own health benefit.
So, is it possible that a Covid vaccine passport should just be a similar measure, determined by individual countries?
Now, there is also discussion about other services and such that could be denied to people without a passport. This, I would argue, is over-stepping, unnecessary, and could very easily infringe upon people’s rights, and more specifically it could further exacerbate existing inequalities, negatively impacting poor Black, Indigenous and other people of colour at disproportionate rates (just as Covid itself disproportionately impacts these communities).
So my question: is it possible to have a discussion about vaccine passports, if they are necessary or if existing mask and social distancing regulations on transit are enough, and if other vaccine proof activities are overstepping and unnecessary (if not counter-productive), without having to revert to claims of ‘conspiracy’ and plots to destroy freedom?
The poster above made a claim that wearing masks during a pandemic and something like a Covid passport is worse than “supposed white Supremacists, Nazis, racists,” and more closely resembled fascism than racists and Nazis. I can only assume from such a statement that the person who posted it is likely a white straight man who has not personally experienced or been affected by racism or the threat of white supremacy and the rise of fascism or neo-Nazis.
It always strikes me that conspiracy theorists have spent much of the past year screaming hysterics about the tyranny of pieces of cloth on your face during a pandemic, but have little or nothing to say about police killing Black people, literally using physical violence and murder to repress them and their protests, that far-right neo-Nazi and fascist groups are on the rise, committing terror attacks, growing in number, heavily infiltrated in police forces and military forces, lynching Black people, plotting bombings, attempting to start civil and/or race wars, Trump repeatedly considered attempting to use the military to crush BLM protests and tried to overthrow democratic elections to install himself as a fascist dictator, but most conspiracy theorists were – if not ignoring these issues, or dismissing them – often even supporting these kinds of things, participating in these groups, or storming the Capitol, etc.
My point is that racism, fascism, Nazism and the like pose a very real, existential and immediate threat to many groups, individuals, wider society, democracy, freedom and the future of the species. They literally murder people, plot terror attacks, and openly declare their desire to dismantle democracy and install their own dictatorial leader who, in some cases, would seek to ethnically cleanse their society.
But wearing pieces of cloth on your face during a pandemic is worse? But requiring a vaccine passport to travel is more threatening? I can’t imagine how, unless of course the person making the claim is not aware of these other threats, does not take them seriously, perhaps simply dismisses them (or assumes they are also some sort of conspiratorial plot), or is just a white person who has no experience and perceives little threat to themselves from white supremacy and racism.
While the poster above claimed that vaccine passports are like Nazi Germany requiring “papers”, is it not possible that instead of health measures during a pandemic, perhaps there are more parallels to Nazi Germany seen in the rise of racist, fascist gangs in the streets beating up leftist and anti-racist protesters, in the rise of hate crimes directed against ethnic and racial minorities, the attempt to overturn a democratic election, the attempt(s) to use the military to crush anti-racism protests, and the use of armed gangs to attack political opponents and buildings (much like both Mussolini and Hitler), and the purposeful spread of conspiracy theories to demonize particular segments of the population in an effort to justify discrimination, violence and murder. I would argue that ALL of that (and more) is much more reflective and representative of a fascist threat than having to wear a mask during a pandemic.
Someone who could claim that all the above is “the least of your worries” in the face of wearing masks and needing a vaccine [during a pandemic, and in an effort to end a pandemic], seems to me to be a statement that reflects a kind of extreme privilege (and perhaps willful ignorance). Perhaps it is that since everyone has to wear a mask in certain circumstances (and places) means that if, for example, the poster was a white man, wearing a mask seems to much more directly affect them than racist, fascist gangs plotting to overthrow democracy and start a civil war, or to target BLM protests with violence or terror attacks. Because racists and white supremacists don’t typically target other white people, maybe it feels as if wearing a mask [during a pandemic] is a much greater infringement upon their ‘rights’ than people being murdered for the colour of their skin.
Is it possible that conspiracy theorists who fear tyranny are focused on the wrong sources of it?
In the aftermath of the Capitol insurrection, I could only shake my head in bewilderment at the fact that the whole things was the result of conspiracy theories spread by the President and his sycophants, taken up by ultra-conspiratorial groups like QAnon, and that, in a fit of irony, the conspiracy groups constantly screaming hysterics about the threat of the government to destroy freedom and create a tyranny were, in fact, attempting to overturn democracy and install a tyranny.
Is it possible that conspiracy theorists have been duped more than most groups in society, just as they were in Nazi Germany and elsewhere? Does it not make sense to look at past societies where conspiracy theories ran rampant (from the heights of political power on down), and see that they have a deeply devastating impact on democracy and in justifying horrific crimes against humanity?
Is it possible to have a discussion about the world, about politics, about the successes and failures of particular policies, without everything having to be reduced to some sort of conspiracy theory?
Is it possible that the rapid growth of conspiracy theories, particularly over the past year, are the result of people’s psychological reaction to a crisis – or multiple crises – in an attempt to simplify and make things easily understandable, to bring order to a chaotic world, to bring a sense of control and a kind of empowerment in thinking you ‘know’ the answers, instead of having to face a great many uncertainties and challenges? In other words, is it possible that these conspiracy theories are essentially a coping mechanism for people who don’t know how or want to deal with the great uncertainties and randomness of life and crises?
Here’s another one: is it possible that scientists who spent virtually a decade getting an education, and have subsequently dedicated their lives to studying, practicing, and advancing science may know more about science than people who have done none of the above?
It’s funny, I have never said conspiracies don’t happen, history is full of examples, from the assassination of Julius Caesar, to the Reichstag fire, to the Final Solution, to the 2013 Egyptian coup [note: there is actual evidence for all these conspiracies, though not without some dissent or critique]. But it always strikes me that actual conspiracies are usually initiated by one faction of an elite against another [the exception in the above examples would be the Final Solution, where it was a conspiracy by an elite against a segment of the population], and that they are generally built around very specific moments or actions, and have a very limited time-frame of operation.
Is it not possible to believe in provable, real, historical conspiracies without believing that *everything* is a conspiracy, or that there is some grand global conspiracy controlling all world events?
Is it not possible that the conspiracy theorists who tell others to “open their minds” and who declare themselves as “free thinkers” are in fact among the most closed-minded and most brainwashed people in modern society?
Do you think it is possible to have a problem in this world that ISN’T automatically purposely created by whatever cabal you imagine to be in charge?
There is always a cabal – the magnate is ever present in everyone. Now, regarding natural disasters: before the advent of the industrial and high-tech revolutions, that is, before the 1900s, weather events and disasters were naturally occurring events. Once the era of high-tech kicked into high gear, in particular nuclear and computational technology – the ability to generate natural disasters, to manipulate the weather and so on became prevalent. The military will always find new ways to kill people, that is a given.
[I remember veering further away from conspiracy theories when every single hurricane or earthquake was blamed on weather and other geological weapons, as if there had never been natural disasters prior to the development of such weapons. Let’s leave aside for a moment the idea that just because a government says it is developing some sort of technology that this means they were successful and have actually used it].
Is it possible for elites to seek to expand their own interests and use crises to their own benefit without having personally and intentionally creating the crisis?
This is possible. However, even the elites themselves are not fully aware of what is going on, and neither does the standard conspiracy-theorist from either the right or the left of the political spectrum. Both sides are puppets, as are the elites themselves in every walk of life. The elite includes those sordid intellectuals who try to rationalize away the corruption and insanity of this 3D experience. They utilize logic, “facts” and reasoning to explain away the absurdity and unusual circumstances surrounding world-shattering events, in an effort to uphold the status quo. The intellectual is most aspiring spawn of the elite, and are no different from the status-quo elite. This includes Andrew himself and others of his ilk. Everyone is an agent of the elite, and of the entities that run the script. We are all actors. Recognize this and the insanity can be explained without resorting to pure intellectual method.
Is it possible for policies to be implemented – whether successful or not – without the intention being to steal away your freedoms and impose a tyranny?
The purpose of government is to seize and hold on to power. It is naive and dangerous to believe that governments, corporations and institutions are not in it for the long-haul. Institutions, elites, and secret societies exist to pursue power for the sake of power. Even the “vanguard” middle class intellectual wants to seize power from the status-quo elites, in order to relish in the ecstasy of total domination and control. If you think the government or corporation, charities or civil organisations are here to take care of you, you live in a fantasy. The events of the last two decades and the last century is proof enough that all governments, corporations, institutions, and classes want POWER, profits and total control.
Put differently, is it possible that some things, like specific lockdown policies in particular countries or localities may have overstepped or been misguided, ineffective or unnecessary without having been a plot to take away your freedoms and impose a tyranny? Is it possible that some measures were just incompetent? Is it possible that sometimes, some policies or restrictions didn’t work and others did because everyone is responding in real time and having to improvise and learn as we go, as opposed to being some sort of conspiratorial plot?
While reality, yes, is often complicated and messy, if one dares to exercise some imagination and some foresight into the consequences of these policies, one will recognize how futile and tyrannical they turn out. The confusion is deliberate – to get everyone to be suckered into the ‘coronavirus’ mindset. This then sets the stage for further manipulation of the many by the few. Thanks to Western institutional rules and regulations, now institutionalized insanity and madness is in vogue.
I especially ponder this when people say things like, “the lockdowns were a plot” or that “the lockdowns have been discredited.”
I can only wonder: which lockdowns? in which countries? which specific policies did not work? Surely people can’t claim in any serious manner that ALL the lockdowns are the same, because even here in Canada, there is a difference from city to city and province to province. Vancouver’s lockdown policies were different from the rest of BC, which was different from Alberta, which was different from Ontario, which had differences between Toronto and other cities, which was different from Quebec, etc. And of course, while some policies were effective, others were not. So, making claims like, “the lockdowns were a plot” and “were discredited” rings of a dishonest nature: did the person making the claim study each and every lockdown in every country, and within each country, did they study the differences in policies between municipalities, localities and cities; did they study both the policies that worked and didn’t work in each case, did they study the possible motivations for the policies, if economic and political interests trumped health concerns, or vice versa.
Yes, it would appear, ‘lockdowns work.’ However, people are still violating lockdown procedures given the chance. And since the state cannot be everywhere simultaneously, the effects of lock down are shaky at best. There are also the validity and legitimacy of the supposed PCR-tests, which the WHO then instructed doctors and clinicians to revise their methods, cause of the false positives that turn otherwise healthy persons into a potential “contagion” point. Measuring lock down efficacy requires a multi-perspective approach, and not simply looking at the supposed numbers in a vacuum.
In short, there are so many real-world factors and questions, that making such claims doesn’t actually carry any weight. A German lockdown does not look like a lockdown in India, which doesn’t look like a lockdown in Vietnam, which doesn’t look like a lockdown in Australia. I am sure you get my meaning.
This goes to my oft-repeated point of many months about conspiracy theories failing to account for complexity. Vast conspiracy theories make sense only if you ignore all the complexities of reality.
Now more to the point of vaccine passports:
Did you know that for decades there have been a great many countries that you cannot travel to without getting any number of vaccines? I remember over a decade ago traveling to Kenya and Uganda and before I went I needed to get several different vaccinations and retrieve paperwork evidence to confirm that I did indeed get those vaccinations. This paperwork was checked when I arrived in these countries. That was it, though. There were no attacks upon my freedom, it was, in fact, for my own health benefit.
So, is it possible that a Covid vaccine passport should just be a similar measure, determined by individual countries?
In the short-term, they will give us the option of the supposed vaccines, bracelets or passports. Over time, these policies will be entrenched, mandatory and compulsory. This is how every crisis and opportunity is exploited in every state – especially in supposed ‘democracies’ where people are more reluctant to accept tracking devices, even though their phones are already tracking them. A vaccine passport or a vaccine bracelet of any sort will be incrementally “encouraged” by the scientifically brought-off (bribed, corrupted) and policy makers alike.
Now, there is also discussion about other services and such that could be denied to people without a passport. This, I would argue, is over-stepping, unnecessary, and could very easily infringe upon people’s rights, and more specifically it could further exacerbate existing inequalities, negatively impacting poor Black, Indigenous and other people of colour at disproportionate rates (just as Covid itself disproportionately impacts these communities).
So my question: is it possible to have a discussion about vaccine passports, if they are necessary or if existing mask and social distancing regulations on transit are enough, and if other vaccine proof activities are overstepping and unnecessary (if not counter-productive), without having to revert to claims of ‘conspiracy’ and plots to destroy freedom?
Every crisis provides the insane governments of the world with an excuse to tamper down and lock down freedoms. While one may dismiss the Hegelian dialect as not proof, or not evidence enough, one need only to exercise a bit of FORESIGHT, that is, imagine what would happen next. Being bogged down in state-sanctioned and institutionally approved documents is a good way to develop tunnel vision and a failure of imagination to see the consequences of what is going to happen next.
The poster above made a claim that wearing masks during a pandemic and something like a Covid passport is worse than “supposed white Supremacists, Nazis, racists,” and more closely resembled fascism than racists and Nazis. I can only assume from such a statement that the person who posted it is likely a white straight man who has not personally experienced or been affected by racism or the threat of white supremacy and the rise of fascism or neo-Nazis.
It always strikes me that conspiracy theorists have spent much of the past year screaming hysterics about the tyranny of pieces of cloth on your face during a pandemic, but have little or nothing to say about police killing Black people, literally using physical violence and murder to repress them and their protests, that far-right neo-Nazi and fascist groups are on the rise, committing terror attacks, growing in number, heavily infiltrated in police forces and military forces, lynching Black people, plotting bombings, attempting to start civil and/or race wars, Trump repeatedly considered attempting to use the military to crush BLM protests and tried to overthrow democratic elections to install himself as a fascist dictator, but most conspiracy theorists were – if not ignoring these issues, or dismissing them – often even supporting these kinds of things, participating in these groups, or storming the Capitol, etc.
My point is that racism, fascism, Nazism and the like pose a very real, existential and immediate threat to many groups, individuals, wider society, democracy, freedom and the future of the species. They literally murder people, plot terror attacks, and openly declare their desire to dismantle democracy and install their own dictatorial leader who, in some cases, would seek to ethnically cleanse their society.
But wearing pieces of cloth on your face during a pandemic is worse? But requiring a vaccine passport to travel is more threatening? I can’t imagine how, unless of course the person making the claim is not aware of these other threats, does not take them seriously, perhaps simply dismisses them (or assumes they are also some sort of conspiratorial plot), or is just a white person who has no experience and perceives little threat to themselves from white supremacy and racism.
While the poster above claimed that vaccine passports are like Nazi Germany requiring “papers”, is it not possible that instead of health measures during a pandemic, perhaps there are more parallels to Nazi Germany seen in the rise of racist, fascist gangs in the streets beating up leftist and anti-racist protesters, in the rise of hate crimes directed against ethnic and racial minorities, the attempt to overturn a democratic election, the attempt(s) to use the military to crush anti-racism protests, and the use of armed gangs to attack political opponents and buildings (much like both Mussolini and Hitler), and the purposeful spread of conspiracy theories to demonize particular segments of the population in an effort to justify discrimination, violence and murder. I would argue that ALL of that (and more) is much more reflective and representative of a fascist threat than having to wear a mask during a pandemic.
Someone who could claim that all the above is “the least of your worries” in the face of wearing masks and needing a vaccine [during a pandemic, and in an effort to end a pandemic], seems to me to be a statement that reflects a kind of extreme privilege (and perhaps willful ignorance). Perhaps it is that since everyone has to wear a mask in certain circumstances (and places) means that if, for example, the poster was a white man, wearing a mask seems to much more directly affect them than racist, fascist gangs plotting to overthrow democracy and start a civil war, or to target BLM protests with violence or terror attacks. Because racists and white supremacists don’t typically target other white people, maybe it feels as if wearing a mask [during a pandemic] is a much greater infringement upon their ‘rights’ than people being murdered for the colour of their skin.
Is it possible that conspiracy theorists who fear tyranny are focused on the wrong sources of it?
Tyranny comes from many sources, including from above and below. The left and the right are getting prepared to strangle each other’s throats any day now. All it takes is another major crisis to unfold. The sources of tyranny come from the bottom, via the supposed SJW and PC warriors. The tyranny also comes from the top – via public-private partnerships, corporate fascism, and the corporate-government merger.
In the aftermath of the Capitol insurrection, I could only shake my head in bewilderment at the fact that the whole things was the result of conspiracy theories spread by the President and his sycophants, taken up by ultra-conspiratorial groups like QAnon, and that, in a fit of irony, the conspiracy groups constantly screaming hysterics about the threat of the government to destroy freedom and create a tyranny were, in fact, attempting to overturn democracy and install a tyranny.
Is it possible that conspiracy theorists have been duped more than most groups in society, just as they were in Nazi Germany and elsewhere? Does it not make sense to look at past societies where conspiracy theories ran rampant (from the heights of political power on down), and see that they have a deeply devastating impact on democracy and in justifying horrific crimes against humanity?
Yes, the regular, standard conspiracy theorists are being duped – just not by who or what they think. They are all being instructed by the Deep State and the Deepest State to carry out their resistance and revolution to bring about the very New World Order they swore to fight against. This is by design – create duality, generate confusion, and boom, one has total control.
Is it possible to have a discussion about the world, about politics, about the successes and failures of particular policies, without everything having to be reduced to some sort of conspiracy theory?
All of history is a conspiracy, and conspiracies exist everywhere – and I am taking the word ‘conspiracy’ to mean just planning in general. That is how civilization was built. Conspiracies exist everywhere, both consciously and unconsciously via inspiration from the intellectual thinking process. Conspiracy theorists versus intellectual elites is another false paradigm – they are two sides of the same coin. That is why, one need to see above the board-game and see the entire board – the entire chess game as is, from a bird’s eye view. Do not choose a side. The ultimate conspiracy is the conspiracy to keep us holding onto the 3D experience by threatening to take away freedoms, rights, and so on.
Is it possible that the rapid growth of conspiracy theories, particularly over the past year, are the result of people’s psychological reaction to a crisis – or multiple crises – in an attempt to simplify and make things easily understandable, to bring order to a chaotic world, to bring a sense of control and a kind of empowerment in thinking you ‘know’ the answers, instead of having to face a great many uncertainties and challenges? In other words, is it possible that these conspiracy theories are essentially a coping mechanism for people who don’t know how or want to deal with the great uncertainties and randomness of life and crises?
People want a simple story, is that really wrong? Yes, the world is complex, and unfortunately, not everyone is of the mindset that MORE intellectual endeavours can help them answer those baffling questions of coincidence and oddities. Perhaps it is a coping mechanism – the world has gone mad, crazy and insane – the lines between reality and fantasy have been blurred. Can you really blame the folks who cling onto conspiracy theories though? If the elites stopped conspiring, maybe then there would not be conspiracy theorists in the first place. Who knows?
Here’s another one: is it possible that scientists who spent virtually a decade getting an education, and have subsequently dedicated their lives to studying, practicing, and advancing science may know more about science than people who have done none of the above?
It’s funny, I have never said conspiracies don’t happen, history is full of examples, from the assassination of Julius Caesar, to the Reichstag fire, to the Final Solution, to the 2013 Egyptian coup [note: there is actual evidence for all these conspiracies, though not without some dissent or critique]. But it always strikes me that actual conspiracies are usually initiated by one faction of an elite against another [the exception in the above examples would be the Final Solution, where it was a conspiracy by an elite against a segment of the population], and that they are generally built around very specific moments or actions, and have a very limited time-frame of operation.
Is it not possible to believe in provable, real, historical conspiracies without believing that *everything* is a conspiracy, or that there is some grand global conspiracy controlling all world events?
Everything is a conspiracy, since everything is the result of a plan – albeit conscious or otherwise.
Is it not possible that the conspiracy theorists who tell others to “open their minds” and who declare themselves as “free thinkers” are in fact among the most closed-minded and most brainwashed people in modern society?
Intellectuals and regular conspiracy theorists folks are both close-minded, indoctrinated servants and serfs of the higher ‘masters’ who orchestrate the game plan. Take a larger, wider and perhaps, intuitive view, and one will recognize this insanity that is unfolding. What is sane to one is insane to another. Learn to change ones perspectives from the rational and linear viewpoint to the non-linear, creative and unconstrained viewpoints, and one will appreciate what is really happening. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly. Remember that.
Thank you for attempting to answer some points and questions I raised. It was interesting to read, but I didn’t find any compelling arguments to support your overall position. I once again remain completely unconvinced of the ‘grand conspiracy’ delusion. Simply saying, “everything is a conspiracy” or that “intellectualism” is conspiratorial is not an argument nor is it evidence of what you claim. I am beyond the point of expecting anything convincing from these people.
In truth, the grand conspiracy narrative, whether you are a Nazi who thinks it’s all “the Jews,” or whether you are a more benign conspiracy theorist that thinks it’s all some grand design so just do nothing because it’s all preordained (kind of like a religious fanatic), it doesn’t really matter, it’s all based on ultimately being quite lazy. You don’t actually want to do any of the work required to gain real knowledge.
Conspiracy theorists have a LOT to say about coronavirus and about viruses and epidemiology. But do they know anything about these fields? Of course not. Because that would require them to study and learn something new, from people who actually know the fields. And that takes years of hard work and energy. Conspiracy theorists can only dedicate hours of their time to googling obscure blogs, learning from memes, and watching youtube videos. And of course, when they do so, it’s only to google and look up obscure theories that magically “disprove” or “dismiss” entire knowledge systems (like epidemiology), so that they can resort to their usual means of self-declared and self-important ignorance. “I don’t need to study epidemiology because it’s all a conspiracy and I am obviously more knowledgeable about the subject than people who have spent their lives studying it.”
But put any one of these conspiracy theorists in a lab and they don’t know shit.
It’s just laziness.
Oh, sure, if we use our “imaginations and instinct” we can make up any old nonsense we want and declare ourselves to be “enlightened.” So say all of history’s most deluded.
I’m not saying that instinct and imagination count for nothing, but they actually have to be built on foundations of knowledge and information. If someone who has actual knowledge and information about a subject matter then engages in using their imagination or instinct to fill in some theoretical blanks, there could certainly be value in that.
But some dip-shit on the internet who watched maybe 3 youtube videos and thinks they know more than actual scientists and who then says that knowledge and intellectual endeavours are part of a conspiracy and so using actual information and knowledge is useless because you only need to rely upon making things up based upon what you feel you believe…. is completely worthless.
Again, I have not read a single convincing argument in any and all of these comments.
And yes, all the claims about “intellectualism” being a religion (even though no one actually is able to explain what this means or how that actually works, since intellectual pursuits and processes are decidedly not religious, being based upon investigation, research and repeated results through experimentation, whereas religion is based upon belief and fairy tales… but right, the ones who say just to make up reality based upon your uninformed instincts and imagination are the enlightened ones, mhm, sure, okay, haha).
I’m tired of these arguments and giving them any semblance of credence or consideration.
I appreciate your attempt to address some points I made, but really, all you proved was that the belief in grand conspiracy theories is not based in reality or fact, but simply belief and fantasy. When confronted with contradictory information, you simply adjust the theory to include those sources as being “part of the conspiracy.”
Again, I wonder how conspiracy theorists manage to do anything in this world on a daily basis. If they want to learn how to cook for themselves, surely they must know that all cooks and chefs are part of some grand conspiracy, so best to just make up how cooking works and pretend you know what you’re doing and hope you don’t get salmonella. What about learning how to play an instrument? Well, surely you can’t learn from musicians, because obviously as experts in their field, they are brainwashed by the grand conspiracy and don’t know how instruments work. Obviously, if you watch a 20 minute youtube video “disproving” music, then you know more than musicians and don’t even need to bother learning how to play because you already know everything there is to know.
This is how ignorant and stupid these conspiracy theorists sound.
I would take their arguments more seriously if they actually took the time to learn the subjects they target. You want to dismiss, discredit or demonize epidemiology? Fine, but start by studying it. Take some epidemiology courses, read some books, learn from epidemiologists and gain knowledge and explore what that knowledge system is. THEN, and only then, can such a person look at the critical literature and the critiques of that knowledge system from a position of knowing what the valid critiques are. Because otherwise you don’t actually have the intellectual capacity to determine what the relevant arguments and critiques are against a subject if you don’t know it.
Again, take cooking or music. If you’re going to make a recipe better, or explain what was wrong with one particular recipe, you actually have to know how to cook, and know how ingredients go together, you have to base your critique upon knowledge of the subject, otherwise it’s just some meaningless customer review, “I didn’t like the sauce.” I mean, I guess it’s perfectly valid for customers and people who eat food to criticize it, but don’t expect to be taken seriously by the people who make it. And the same goes for music. If you’re going to criticize music, or claim to be able to write better music, or play better music, than some particular piece or artist or genre, then you should actually know about music, have some knowledge or experience with reading, playing or writing music. Otherwise your opinion, again, is just uninformed chatter, not to be taken seriously.
They always have so much to say, and make such grand claims in all their critiques, so eager to dismiss, discredit and demonize anything and everything that doesn’t accept their obscure fantasy world beliefs, instead of ever actually starting from a position of humility before knowledge, of a willingness to actually learn something new for once.
That requires effort.
Laziness is much more attractive. Especially if you can pretend that in doing so, you are actually wiser and more knowledgable than those you dismiss.
Funny how that works.
But until conspiracy theorists start actually studying the subjects they claim to discredit, I have no respect for them. And it’s funny, that is actually how I stopped being a conspiracy theorist. I chose to actually learn instead of just dismissing that which I did not know, simply searching out other beliefs that already conformed to my “instincts” to dismiss things I felt were suspect and that nicely fit into my overall (uninformed) world view.
But when I actually started to study subjects, and take the time (and yes, that means years and years of research) to learn, it’s funny how you learn how the grand conspiracy theories just don’t adhere to reality, and are such simple, uninformed answers to more complex questions. Again, like religion.
It’s all so predictable and void of reason. I have wasted enough of my life in this black hole of conspiracy theory mumbo jumbo fantasy world nonsense.
But bending and swaying your belief system around every fact, every question, every concept and all knowledge that challenges its validity is not proof that your belief system works, it’s proof only that it has nothing to stand on, no foundation, no strength; it is smoke in wind, a brief puff and it’s gone. It is there but for a moment before reality sweeps it away.
Until conspiracy theorists actually learn how to do the things they constantly preach AT others (“do your research”, “open your mind,” “think critically”), then they aren’t worth my time. And of course, if they actually learned how to do research, how to think critically and open their minds, then they wouldn’t be delusional conspiracy theorists anymore and we could all have a rational, intelligent conversation instead of me being hounded by people who think they can just make up the meaning of words based upon what they “feel.” I have honestly had more intelligent and insightful conversations with toddlers than I have had on this comment thread, which is a very sad reflection of the failures of our education system.
But I am under no obligation to entertain or respect (or provide a platform) for absurd fantasies.
So, again, thanks for playing, thanks for trying to answer some points, but… no sale. Not convincing. Not in the least.
Try YouTube.
https://id2020.org/alliance
Look at the corporate sponsors of the supposed, “ID2020” – Microsoft, and Rockefeller stand out the most in the actors who want to “reset” the world by using digital ID in the supposed effort to better identify people under the guise of offering ‘services’ to them.
Now, while Andrew may then claim that Rockefellers are not that bad, since you know, all rich people are philanthropists, surely they mean good.
Suppose philanthropy is just a cover, a smoke-screen for far more nefarious and insidious agendas?
Intellectual endeavours is strictly restricted within a narrow box or a tunnel vision of reasoning and thought. The leaders of these corporate boards count on the tunnel vision intellectual, i.e. the Andrew Gavin Marshall type, to never use their imagination, and to never utilize their intuition and only strictly logic, institutional perspectives to critique them.
Why? it keeps them safe from any serious challenge to their power, since intellectualism can always rationalize psychopathic and psychotic behaviors of corporations and institutions, and to explain away the irrationality, the insanity and madness of corporate policies as, ‘logical.”
Well, of course from the strictly logical and rational perspective, anything can be rationalized away or explained away when it no longer suits the rigid, dogmatic, ‘institutional’ perspective, which is just another version of conspiracy theory, dressed up in polite intellectual garb so as to appear respectable, and can be easily co-opted by the elites to justify their narratives with no effort on their part, since these narrow-minded intellectuals already did the brainwashing on themselves.
What if, it is possible to practice both intuition and intellect simultaneously?
Sounds insane? Maybe it is. How would Andrew know what the experience of using both intellect and intuition is, without experiencing it for himself, first hand? That would be a bit un-scientific and perhaps, even intellectually dishonest?
Without intuition, humanity could never have evolved from the Stone Ages, let alone develop the capacity for sophisticated reasoning, logic, and linear thought patterns – cause it takes experience to develop such faculties. That is what evolution is all about.
https://www.businessinsider.com/cpac-stage-shaped-like-nordic-rune-used-on-nazi-uniforms-2021-2
If politics is not religion in disguise, then explain this odd synchronicity/coincidence using pure logic and reasoning alone.
It is a well-known fact that the Nazis were obsessed with religious artifacts, secret and dark technology, and potentially time-travel.
Also, a few months ago, this news came out:
https://www.defenseone.com/technology/2019/03/pentagon-wants-test-space-based-weapon-2023/155581/
I bet your brain will hit a wall and might go into a temper tantrum since it is easier to be in denial than to accept and analyze coincidences and synchronicities head-on and with courage.
We, as a species had crossed the threshold between fact and fiction a long time ago. Time to snap out of the drivel of intellectual tunnel vision and expand one’s’ perspective beyond pure reason, logic, and supposed, ‘facts” (I am not in any way alleging facts are not useful in limited circumstances).
To develop an appreciation for the world of syncs, space-time weapons and tools, check out this declassified document from the CIA regarding the hemi-synch process:
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00788r001700210016-5
Download the PDF and read it word by word. Then, come back and evaluate your logical perspective in a new light.
https://www.who.int/news/item/20-01-2021-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users-2020-05
https://web.archive.org/web/20210120083427/https://www.who.int/news/item/14-12-2020-who-information-notice-for-ivd-users
https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/herd-immunity-lockdowns-and-covid-19
The WHO is far from an objective, impartial, independent health organization.
Look at the change in definition of the term, ‘herd immunity,’ from the standard medical definition requiring either vaccination or natural immunity development to just ‘mass vaccination.’
Why change this definition in November 2020?
The WHO obviously must know who benefits – the big pharmaceutical companies.
Also, all of these vaccines developed in less than a year smells of unscientific and political, economic and monetary pressure from corporate boards on ‘scientists’ to develop experimentally untested vaccines and then use the entire world population as guinea pigs.
Also, the new mRNA and its effects on people are completely unknown.
Also, the PCR test has been verified to be so unreliable since it produces too many false positives, hence why the numbers, “increased.”
How can there be a vaccine for a virus which is literally either non-existent, its threat has been exaggerated, and the observation that it has a 99% survival rate – way better than the 1970s Asian Flu.
Again, these PCR tests, these social distancing, lock down measures, and massive layoffs while the stock markets keep shooting through the roof to the stars make no sense.
In any sane world, these policies would have been renounced for religious dogma, since these lock downs and policies have caused more harm to vulnerable segments of the population, and has expanded its effects to everyone – including those not normally susceptible to the effects of long-term prison-like isolation.
The psychological, psychiatric, and physiological effects of these lockdowns require further study and analysis.
In either case, I suspect its effect on the human psyche is largely negative and therefore imprisoning and intrusive.
To be fair, “conspiracy theory” is not limited to supposed “conspiracy theorist.” Government, media, academia all have their version of conspiracy theory, i.e. a narrative that fits a particular or desirable agenda.
So, technically everyone is a conspiracy theorist, cause everyone wants to find a narrative to explain the complexity of the world.
Now, I know Andrew despises the authors who played with words and revealed some interesting stuff regarding the nature of reality, space-time, and the cyclical nature of space-time continuum – is a much higher paradigm of explaining the lunacy of the world.
Now, back to “conspiracy theory:” The government and the media has their own narratives to justify their policies respecting the coronavirus.
Consider the government’s official narrative respecting the coronavirus: It supposedly originated in Wuhan, and even though the WHO recently ‘investigated’ in Wuhan, Also, notice that the mainstream media is having a field day with China-bashing and the United States even admitted recently that it is preparing for war against China. So, the choice of China as the “host” nation for supposed coronavirus helps to demonize and dehumanize the Chinese “villain.”
Furthermore, it is no secret that the official story of 9/11 does not add up. How could a man in a cave, thousands of miles away orchestrate the most sophisticated attack against the USA and its extensive, most bloated intelligence community, of 16 intelligence agencies?
Lunacy, insanity and madness have methods – pay people enough, and they will keep quiet. Hence, incompetence, insanity, and pure evil are not contradictory whatsoever. Hence, the official narrative, i.e a conspiracy theory promoted by the government does have real life consequences – just depends on which perspective you are looking at. Hence, from a perspective-driven philosophy, all views, no matter how obtuse and supposedly “phobic” have some legitimacy.
In response to this ridiculous claim to dehumanize and demonize people whom you disagree with:
“Again, take cooking or music. If you’re going to make a recipe better, or explain what was wrong with one particular recipe, you actually have to know how to cook, and know how ingredients go together, you have to base your critique upon knowledge of the subject, otherwise it’s just some meaningless customer review, “I didn’t like the sauce.” I mean, I guess it’s perfectly valid for customers and people who eat food to criticize it, but don’t expect to be taken seriously by the people who make it. And the same goes for music. If you’re going to criticize music, or claim to be able to write better music, or play better music, than some particular piece or artist or genre, then you should actually know about music, have some knowledge or experience with reading, playing or writing music. Otherwise your opinion, again, is just uninformed chatter, not to be taken seriously.”
You really think what conspiracy theorists or synchronicity-buffs do will dramatically effect their lives that they won’t even know how to cook or defer to experts when it comes to music?
Are you seriously that deluded into thinking that people cannot distinguish between what is a plausible conspiracy versus what are necessities in life?
This line of argument is ethically questionable and is setting the stage for a witch hunt since the dehumanization and demonization part is already accomplished.
This line of reasoning is also very dangerous, the same kind of reasoning that justifies genocide, policide and witch hunts against anyone perceived to be in slight disagreement or dissent respecting what Reality is.
Speaking for myself, I can perfectly distinguish between when I will and will not defer to experts regarding certain subject matter. Of course I am not dismissing epistemology, virology, biology, linguistics, physics or chemistry when they are NOT being corrupted and influenced by political, economic, or financial pressures. When the sciences are being compromised by higher ups, that is when I have issues with the legitimacy of the supposed science being peddled in the mainstream media and alternative media alike.
When it comes to the notion that institutional analysis supposedly trump conspiracy theorists (in fact as stated by other readers before, even institutional analysis is just a form of conspiracy theory dressed up to appease elites, since it does nothing to challenge the narratives peddled by the elites, and in fact, ends up reinforcing the mainstream narrative).
Personally, the synchronous-driven perspective of the “grand narrative’ regarding world events goes beyond regular institutional and conspiratorial views – and via multi-contextual, symbolic, suggestive-analysis, can even “foretell” future events by having a conversation with the “signals” that are everywhere, that are the silent messages being communicated to oneself and many others – if and only if one pay attention to the coincidence and synchronous events around us.
Necessities, like, listening to epidemiologists during a pandemic, you mean?
Yeah, clearly I’m not the delusional one here.
And no, denouncing conspiracy theorists for their dangerous delusions is not tantamount to genocide. After all, when someone attempted to answer my question regarding the rise of fascism, their response was that the “threat” of fascism today comes from above and below, and pointed to the “PC police” as the threat from below.
So this person thinks that Dr. Seuss’ estate banning the reprinting of a few of his books no one has even read in decades is fascism, but literal fascist, Nazi, racist gangs roving the streets, beating up protesters, advocating for ethnic cleansing and genocide, and literally attempting to overturn a democratic election and install an unelected tyrant as dictator is apparently, somehow, not a threat of fascism. And of course, the supporters of that wannabe tyrant were riled up by false conspiracy theories, and the actual fascists and Nazis are mobilized through conspiracy theories (again, totally unfounded, false, delusional theories). So, in fact, it is from conspiracy theories that the Nazis and fascists are given strength and mobilized to seize power, and then comes genocide. It is, in fact, not the refusal to reprint some old books by Dr. Seuss that no one reads that represents fascism. Shockingly, it is the fascists who openly declare their fascist beliefs and aspirations and organize to achieve them that represent the real threat of fascism.
Funny how that works, eh?
So, it is conspiracy theory culture that poses a major threat, not me pointing out that these people are delusional and also hypocrites, because as you said, you get to pick and choose which experts you listen to, and you pretend that you are capable to determining to know the difference. But really, you just pick and choose based upon what is politically and ideologically convenient for yourself.
But yeah, I’m very impressed that any of you know how to feed yourselves. Congrats.
And you do not pick facts, information convenient for your purposes? Not a single person behaves like the WWW, just sucking in endless information without some form of discrimination and judgment.
I am surprised Andrew can even read! Anyways jests aside:
We are all biased and flawed creatures – and that is okay, let people have their narratives, however mad or otherwise. It is a free world, right?
The government also promotes their official narratives, those are indistinguishable from conspiracy theories – except, you, yourself promote the official narrative without a shudder. So, let others scrutinize you in however way they want. You are also a conspiracy theorist – just of the type that parrots the governments’ narrative (i.e. the GOVERNMENT’s CONSPIRACY THEORY narrative of events).
The forces that manipulate this conjured up 3D matrix will and does utilise both the left and the right, the High and the Low to squeeze and kill whatever it is in their path. Communism and fascism are two sides of the same coin. Don’t pretend to yourself, in your politically idealised world that corruption does not make people do barbarous and insane things to one another.
K thanks bye!
Andrew, your entire intellectually inclined assumptions rest on the assumption that the 3D experience and the 3D world is in fact real and legitimate.
Have you ever studied quantum physics, the holographic universe theory and so on?
You cannot just assume the 3D world is real without seriously questioning the basics of its physics.
I am an engineering student and I have studied quantum mechanics, subatomic physics and quantum theory on and off for the past decade, and I can tell you without a doubt that the 3D experience is not at all what you imagine it to be once you get into the quantum level.
By “reasoning” you often mean “linear reasoning” – let us get that out of the way first, because that is what you champion based on the classical physical theories of Newton, which broke down after Einstein, Heisenberg, Planck, Schrodinger, and Rutherford, and the rest of the physics geniuses of the 20th and 21st centuries. Modern physics requires more so, nonlinear reasoning and ‘thinking’ which is why when one of the authors played those word games and connected physics with Abrahamic faith, it triggered a temper tantrum – it violates the premise of LINEAR REASONING.
Like the Large Hadron Collider, the intuitive and nonlinear mind is able to comprehend what the reasonable and linear mind cannot comprehend – since the nonlinear mind can break the fog of linear reasoning. Linear reasoning is not good or bad, it just has its limits at the quantum or preconscious, and unconscious levels.
To appreciate the “intuitive” leaps of the whole synchronicity and coincidence paradigm, you need to seriously read the CIA document provided by the other authors, and get even the most basic understanding of quantum theory, atomic physics, and modern advanced physics. Don’t worry too much about the math part, understand the concept first.
No, I have not studied quantum physics. Interesting stuff. I looked up some of what you were talking about in terms of the holographic universe theory. Interesting stuff, but this is not a blog about physics, nor do I pretend to have any knowledge of physics.
I’m not sure what this has to do with proving some grand conspiracy theory, however. I suppose some people took the concept of a holographic universe to justify their preconceived ideology that everything is controlled in some grand illusion, but that’s not what I saw being referenced in the holographic universe theory, which would suggest that the so-called conspirators are themselves just illusions and so too would their conspiracies be.
But again, I’m not a physicist and I’m not here to discuss physics. I’m here to discuss politics, economics, and history. If you would like to have conversations about the holographic universe, I am sure that there are a number of academic journals, websites and communities with like-minded individuals and physicists who could engage in lively and interesting conversation on the subject. This site is not that site, unfortunately for you.
So just as the conspiracy theorists cite the Hegelian dialectic to justify every single delusion they have, so too can they cite the holographic universe theory to dismiss every concept or idea they don’t agree with. It’s a never ending cycle of citing some existing concept to justify their refusal to study or learn anything about our world, whether a hologram or not.
If you all are convinced by the holographic theory and believe that all of existence is just an illusion – though one that is apparently created by human beings within that illusion (?) – then by all means, believe whatever you want. But this is not the place for it, and I am not the person to discuss physics or paranoid delusions with.
I am sure some mental health professionals could be much more helpful in discussing paranoid delusional fantasies, or, talk to some physicists and get their take on conspiracy theory culture.
But I don’t know how many times I have to say this, but MY blog is not the place for the airing of these fantasies.
If people want to talk about politics and economics and history, great, but that’s clearly not what all these people want to do. They just comment in an effort to dismiss logic and reason when it comes to examining the political and economic world, and then rant about their religious beliefs, delusions, fantasies, and now also physics. At least the latter actually has (somewhat) of a knowledge base, though I fail to see the connection between learning a physics concept and concluding that everything is a conspiracy.
But I’m not asking for elaboration on that, because I already know the answer: there is no connection, there is no evidence, there is no proof of grand conspiracy. And you know why? Because it doesn’t exist.
And maybe the whole world and existence and reality are a holographic illusion and this dimension is one of many. Maybe!
But that does nothing to prove that there is a grand conspiracy. If anything, quite the opposite, because it suggests how little humans know.
But somehow I am expected to believe that conspiracy theorists who refuse to study and learn anything can simply make stuff up out of nowhere and I am to take it seriously because nothing actually exists and the world is a hologram. Even though that means that their conspiracy theories are equally nonexistent.
But again, this is not a physics blog. I am not a physicist. I am not here to discuss physics or concepts of the universe.
I have no doubt you can find the right website to discuss those concepts.
And now I would greatly appreciate every paranoid delusional conspiracy theorist on here to go away and stop telling me what I should be doing with MY time.
Good day.
Andrew, you asked what intellectually inspired activity is religious?
Consider what the activities of intellectual activity requires – it needs teachers, books, and buildings. In other words, an analogy similar to priests, holy scriptures (any scientific or academically published work will do, does not even need to be the Bible, Qúran or Talmud), with a temple (a building) to boot.
The activities of intellectual indoctrination requires endless repetition, i.e. a form of ritual repetition – that was how and is how anyone learns the supposed “validity” of their 3D experience.
Our five senses are the sensors and the mechanisms by which anything can be inputted into our malleable and fragile 3D crystalline brains.
The intellectual learning process requires drilling endless “knowledge” into the 3D human skull, so that their minds can be further refined and utilized by the “higher masters”, or “entities” to let their pawns continue to legitimize the 3D world as real, as valid, and as authentic.
In other words, the schooling process is the indoctrination, brainwashing, mind-control, propaganda-driven state of total hypnosis – hence, 3D intellectualism is no different than religion.
All religion is all about the worship of the sun and the moon, under a variety of different names. The intellectual also worships the sun and the moon, except s/he does it via the further and endless analysis of the 3D world, to control it, and to “discourage” anyone to question the validity of the 3D experience, lest he or she loses control and authority in manipulating the 3D light show.
We are all pawns, by de facto, and by default to the entities that run the show – the higher masters that control and orchestrate the synchronicities around us [just pay attention to them in your daily life, even a little bit].
To understand what the 3D light show is, you need to read up on quantum physics, that part, I cannot make anyone do. Nevertheless, it is strongly encouraged to have a basic conceptual understanding of what the ATOM is made up of, and its theories of its form and its function.
The grand conspiracy is driven by the tools of hypnosis, and subliminal suggestion – it is NOT, and I must repeat this for emphasis, NOT based on linear, logical, rational reasoning. The hypnotically induced trance individual need only be pushed by a few words, sentences or events to push forward the desired objective of these entities.
To understand what the insanity is that is unfolding before our very eyes, one need to develop a relationship with insanity itself. One cannot comprehend the irrational by rational means, that will never work, and as your childish temper tantrums despite being shown many information regarding the nature of the ATOM, and quantum mechanics, hemi-synch and the word-games demonstrated – linear reasoning has its LIMITS.
Consider what you said about “knowledge” – “the more I study, the more I realize I there are things I do not know…” something along those lines. There is no edge, in other words to the accumulation of intellectual knowledge, which is hyper-knowledge, or hyper-gnosis (gnosis in Greek does mean knowledge, intelligence). Hence, hyper-gnosis is hypnosis.
Andrew, your entire intellectually inclined assumptions rest on the assumption that the 3D experience and the 3D world is in fact real and legitimate.
So intellectual activity involves books and buildings, and therefore, it is religious?
Religion also involves people eating, because religious people have to eat, therefore all eating is religious activity.
That is your (lacking) logic at play.
Another argument I don’t buy.
An attempt, no doubt, but completely unconvincing, and a bit silly.
It is funny, however, that you people seem to prattle on about the 3D world being an illusion and throw in some scientific words (meanwhile dismissing all other sciences, apparently), and yet you then make claims about “the entities that run the show” and “the higher masters,” who apparently somehow are outside the hologram, or, control it somehow. ha. Anyway, it’s all very silly, and this isn’t the place to discuss either physics or paranoid delusions.
As I told another commenter, or probably you, go find a physics website or community to discuss physics, this is not what my website is for. And perhaps seek out a therapist of some sort to discuss your paranoid fantasies. This is also not that place.
Good luck.
K thanks bye! – from yourself.
So you concede that you have no arguments, and therefore cannot disapprove of their claims, since if you did try to do so, you may also find your conspiracy theory (ahem, ‘institutional’ perspective is also nonsense and hollow). This is a fair critique of your perspective, since you been having a field day dismissing legitimate evidence provided in the links of the previous authors.
Anyhow, from experience, the world of synchronicity, once one takes notice of it, is FAR MORE interesting and engaging than the boring, run-off-the-mill monotonous and predictable institutional analysis perspective.
It is actually quite fun and exciting to be able to foresee the “future” before it happens, and often with pinpoint accuracy. There are communities of folks who do this together – and I can assure you, that what is going to come in a short while will be of utter shock and a be a huge KICK in the groins.
Just be ready for it, and don’t tell me I didn’t warn you about it. In particular, the Chauvin trial regarding George Floyd, its aftermath will be of particular interest based on current signals and messages from the Matrix Source Code. Many things can go wrong and go off the rails – things are super fragile, and society is about to go into a very dark period.
Watch out for Black Swan events – they are small, seemingly insignificant signals which can have devastating effects. As the TV show Dark (German TV show) once said, “Everything is Connected.”
haha, oh man, thanks for that, I needed a good laugh.
So let me get this straight, not only are you a religious fanatic, but you are ALSO an oracle who can predict the future?! hahaha
Listen, knowing the dates and events of a highly politicized trial and predicting “a huge kick in the groins” in the aftermath does not make you Cybil the sooth sayer, alright? Just because you can cite an event that any half-wit can predict will incite a dramatic reaction does not mean you have magical powers or that your conspiracy delusions are real.
In fact, it actually goes against your deluded belief system, because you are using facts and information (such as the date and reality of a trial, plus the precedent of last summer’s events) which all goes against your religion. After all, all facts and information is wrong, right? So… I guess that only applies to when you DECIDE it applies, right? When someone else uses facts and information to disprove your paranoid fantasies, THEN facts and information don’t matter, but when it comes to you feeling really self-important and have the impulse to oraculate, then suddenly information, facts, history all become relevant again.
And based on the “Matrix source code”? I mean… wow. You really are far gone.
You know the Matrix was a movie not a documentary, right? Not that I expect you to understand the difference. But that’s fine.
Keep telling yourself that you can “foresee the future before it happens,” but you can’t, and that’s really sad and pathetic that you think you can. You’re not a wizard, Harry. Sorry.
In the second month of Trump’s presidency in 2017, I predicted on social media that his presidency would end with a coup attempt. I thought it would happen within a year but it took four. Does that mean that I have magical powers of prediction? Can I “foresee the future”?
No.
It means that I have enough sense of history to know that a combination of political factors makes a peaceful transition of power unlikely. It’s not magic, it’s actually just doing research, reading, learning about things that have happened and how they happen.
And then you conspiracy theorists do the same, while no doubt denouncing all your own sources of information as well, and then assign yourselves magical powers of prediction.
It’s really sad and pathetic. It’s what children do, but presumably you are an adult.
And simply saying that we are in a dark period and things will get worse is not even remotely impressive. I know literal children who can deduce this because they are at least semi-conscious of the planet they live on.
it’s just funny how you all put so much useless effort into denouncing, dismissing, or demonizing all sources of information (and those who use information and facts), and then you turn around and use very basic facts and information to make very general and/or obvious predictions about the future, and then pretend you have some sort of magical insight.
I guess this kind of mental illness must make you feel pretty special and unique, if you manage to convince yourself, at least. But as I said previously, this is not the place for that kind of stuff, so I would recommend speaking to a mental health professional as soon as possible.
Good luck! And feel free to never come back here again… ever.
Bye, Cybil (LOL!)
“You know the Matrix was a movie not a documentary, right? Not that I expect you to understand the difference. But that’s fine.”
The conclusions of quantum mechanics, in conjunction with ‘knowledge’ of the occult, synchronicity, psychology, linguistic subliminal programming and understanding mythology, and the ancient Mystery School religions – once they are all wrapped up together, concludes that this whole 3D experience is an illusion.
A multi-contextual approach where one can use knowledge to break knowledge by bouncing all knowledge off of one another is very exciting and fun than the boring intellectual mumbo jumbo.
“it’s just funny how you all put so much useless effort into denouncing, dismissing, or demonizing all sources of information (and those who use information and facts), and then you turn around and use very basic facts and information to make very general and/or obvious predictions about the future, and then pretend you have some sort of magical insight.”
As the other authors stated prior, to understand insanity, one need to be a little – eccentric, mad, and insane.
Just like you said, you can’t understand something unless you learn it – well, one can do both learning and unlearning simultaneously without a hitch. Information is useful to determine future possible trajectories and positions. Very much like the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle at play in real life.
“It means that I have enough sense of history to know that a combination of political factors makes a peaceful transition of power unlikely. It’s not magic, it’s actually just doing research, reading, learning about things that have happened and how they happen.”
Did history really happen? Whose interpretation of history and of politics is right? Is there even a right interpretation or analysis of history? Or is history just a collective lie we all subconsciously agreed that it happened as it did, when in actuality, it is just one moment without space-time restrictions?
“In fact, it actually goes against your deluded belief system, because you are using facts and information (such as the date and reality of a trial, plus the precedent of last summer’s events) which all goes against your religion. After all, all facts and information is wrong, right? So… I guess that only applies to when you DECIDE it applies, right? When someone else uses facts and information to disprove your paranoid fantasies, THEN facts and information don’t matter, but when it comes to you feeling really self-important and have the impulse to oraculate, then suddenly information, facts, history all become relevant again.”
Information can be retrieved and used in conjunction with other “information” of the non-institutional type to predict one of many POSSIBLE and PROBABLE futures. There is nothing wrong or right about what “oracles” do. Political scientists and economists build models to predict the future too, and nobody has the wherewithal to collect every single piece of data ever available – there is too much information – people need to be selective, as are yourself in your choice of research sources.
And you may ask, ‘but what about the contradictions?’ What contradictions? There is just an illusion of contrary and duality – it can be conveniently ignored, since duality is only an apparent concept made up by humans. Everything we see in the 3D world is made up – without someone to measure something, then someone to explain it, then the entire 3D “light-in-the-cave” [Plato] vanishes and becomes of no importance.
Right, so there you go. You said it yourself: you just make everything up.
Thanks for dropping by, don’t come back again please.
I don’t even know why you people bother. Why are you even on my website if you’re so offended by facts and information?
This is a rhetorical question, I don’t actually want another nonsense answer.
All i will say is that instead of thinking you’re magical and some sort of oracle, consider just opening a book (not written by Webster Tarpley, since he seems to cover all your “political philosophy” references).
Have a good day. But this is NOT the website for you, or for the airing of paranoid delusional fantasies.
Bye.
“Right, so there you go. You said it yourself: you just make everything up.”
Let us not pretend for a moment that you don’t make stuff up either after your years and years of intellectual drivel and “research.
Making a conclusion based on your research is technically making something up. The entire language system we use is MADE up at one point, adapted by people, and then gradually universalised.
That is not something that is easily countered per se.
“…paranoid delusional fantasies.”
Reality can be often stranger than fiction. Have you read Rendezvous with Rama by Arthur C. Clarke? I suggest taking a read of the first few chapters of that book and tell me again how “fantasy” and reality are two distinct, separate things.
Decoding the world’s oddities, synchronicities and codes have nothing to do with any religious or political convictions whatsoever. It also has nothing to do with paranoia, and the regular, reactionary politics of academics and your run-off-the-mill Alex Jones type conspiracy theorists who get into an emotional frenzy.
It is just about observing things as they unfold – just watching, waiting and observing it – with no emotional or political stake in whatever outcomes that is the consequence of both literal and metaphorical cosmic forces beyond the control of any one person, group or institution.
Okay, sure, whatever you need to keep telling yourself.
Good luck.
Try telling the victims of America’s and NATO’s wars of imperial expansion that they have “paranoid delusions” when they don’t trust the forces that invaded their nations and which are now coercing via social media and peer pressure to get everyone vaccinated with highly experimental vaccines that they are ‘paranoid.’ Try also telling them that those same “epistemologist” are not corrupted and influenced by money to promote certain political agendas at the expense of truth and reality itself. This is not to say all epistemologists are lying, just most are – they are paid to do so since, money buys obedience and loyalty. Fear is a great motivator as the stick and money, prestige, and privilege is the carrot.
In your life of liberal privilege, you yourself have never experienced the consequences of conspiratorial planning where your entire nation got bombed back to the stone ages. So, let us be fair here and say, that, due to your inherent biases and position of intellectual privilege, you are limited in your understanding of the depths and breadth of insanity, conspiracy, and madness driven by the very intellectual system you support (keep in mind, that Bushes, Obamas, Clintons, and every US president are highly intellectually indoctrinated folks, this includes Trump).
In your ivory tower of supposed “enlightenment” posing as knowing, you ignore secret societies, obvious in-your-face coincidences and synchronicities when they occur, and speak down to anyone who challenges your religious system of intellectually-inclined “learning.”
Perhaps get out, really get out of your comfort zone for once and really experience, and really empathize and sympathize with those you claim to want to “help” via intellectual endeavour. The fact that you cannot explain something bizarre does not mean that there is no explanation – those explanations are just not your preferred ones, since they violate your privileged “linear reasoning” paradigm.
Get out of your privileged bubble of intellectual elitism, snobbishness, and psychopathy and pride, and see the real world for once. Being too well-read is not great either. One needs both book and street-smarts to figure out what is happening around us.
So funny when conspiracy theorists tell someone to actually get some real world experience. Love that kind of irony!
It was actually going out into the world and learning from experience and through others with experience that helped to take me away from the deluded world of conspiracy theories.
For example, going out into the streets to participate in and learn from and observe a social movement and protest movement/uprising from the ground up. This was such a lesson in organizing, in ideology, in police repression, in how the media misrepresents social movements, in government misinformation, and as I was doing this I was reading the conspiratorial press (who were of course busy demonizing social movements – inevitably framing them as part of a ‘plot’ – because conspiracy theorists don’t actually join useful movements for progress, only sit back on their computers and demonize others — (unless of course it means joining a rabid mob of deluded brainwashed conspiracy theorist people who were mobilized by a big lie to try to overthrow a democratically elected government and install their lunatic leader as a fascist dictator).
Also, working for non profits and having friends who worked for non-profits and other institutions showed me how that world really worked, from the inside. Then, when I read conspiracy theorist views of things, it increasingly became clear that their views weren’t actually based in reality.
So I agree, it’s very important to go out into the world and experience it first hand, participate, learn how institutions function, engage with human beings. The more of the world you subject yourself to, the more detached from the conspiratorial belief mindset you become.
Andrew:
You are elitist by definition. Yourself even admitted that you only care about what the official line of the day is [i.e. official sources, disregarding any other sources of information, including intuition, imagination, observations based on just watching, and waiting].
Hence, you are increasingly disconnected from those whom you allege to “care” about in your endeavour to supposedly “liberate” the population from one group of elites only to be captured and seduced by the corruption of another elite.
You’re no different than the very elites that you aspire to overthrow, and then do what afterwards?
Make the New World Order of course, in your image, and the image of those like yourself, who share the same philosophies and ideologies toward making a new kind of intellectual for a new world.
That is the danger of deep intellectual learning – it separates you even further from the real world, and has made you, largely, out of touch with the people you profess to care about.
Get out of your comfortable intellectual, liberal-elite, privileged life-style and see what people are really thinking and feeling out there. That means getting away from the books for a while, and getting some street credit.
lol sure thing
Deluded zealots telling me I’m too separated from the real world as they literally make up anything they want and expect it to be taken seriously.
Irony is fun, isn’t it?
Andrew:
Your logic and everyone else’s ‘logic’ will never be a one-to-one match. What is coherent to you is going to sound complete insane to someone else.
Can you use thoughts to perfectly describe the world without any errors?
I challenge you to try to describe every thing in the world before you as you see, and I guarantee that someone will find a flaw or a hole in your reasoning, factual analysis and logic.
People use logic, reasoning and analysis in different ways, what is so wrong or right about your way over any one else’s?
Your way is not superior or inferior – just very – ‘rigid’ and inflexible to adjust to coincidences, synchronicities and oddities.
Since your mind and your reasoning cannot explain it, it does not mean there is no explanation and you don’t even have to like the explanation being offered – just like your readers do not have to buy into your intellectually trance-inducing drivel about how “great” government policies are (the subtext is now, behind your essays, that we should follow the experts like cattle and sheep, even if there is the slight probability and possibility that they are being duped, corrupted, lied to, and deceived, pressured or otherwise coerced into misleading statements regarding what is happening [not just about ‘corona’]).
I recommend stepping out of the shadow of intellectual religious fervour (the adoration of your supposed facts, logic and reasoning – which has flaws in it, despite your best effort). For example, the over-reliance on authority is an appeal to authority, a common logical fallacy. Also, there is certainly ‘confirmation bias’ on everyone’s ends respecting how to analyze the world. So, in that perspective, the word-play ‘reasoning’ is on an equivalent level of reasoning as yours, albeit, it may sound stupid and crazy only because your mind cannot wrap around the ‘logic’ in those kind of word-games, it does mean they are meaningless.
What is meaningful to one could be meaningless to another person – does it negate meaning itself? Not necessarily.
Ponder on these questions before rushing into a childish temper tantrum and shouting contest with people who are just noticing weird stuff in the language of life. What is wrong with noticing and observing stuff? Is that not part of the ‘science’ you so adore and worship? Is that not part of the ‘scientific process’ of discovery? You even said so yourself, you’re no physicist or linguist so don’t rub your arrogance and ignorance as posing as ‘authority.’
If you want to be seen as civilized, you need to tackle the subject matter, the observations, and not the person giving you the observations and the ‘facts.’
You’re no better than the people you criticize, just another cog in the machine of state.
Yet another conspiracy theorist telling me what I should be doing with my time.
As I have repeatedly stated in this comment section, this is not the website for you conspiracy theorists. I am not engaging in confirmation bias for your religious, rigid belief system.